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 Post subject: Re: Rail Tours Locomotives: All-Time Roster
PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:31 pm 

Hi John,

My faux pas-I believe you are correct. The Lykens Valley date should be 1982 instead of 1972, a typo.

K.R. Bell

> Are you sure the dates this locomotive was
> leased to the Lykens Valley are correct? I
> was working for Mercersburg Railway in 1979
> and 80. The Lykens Valley was a sister
> railroad and the first operated by the
> parent company, Northmont Industries.
> Originally the LKVY was operated with Alco
> S-2 number 1 which was moved to Mercersburg
> when that railroad started. A 44 tonner was
> moved to Millersburg to replace number 1 in
> 79 or 80. I recall taking batteries to
> Millersburg and doing some prep work to get
> this GE started. I believe this was ex WM
> 76.

> Eventually the LKVY became the property of a
> fellow named Don Moryer. I think it was he
> who brought in the 10 to replace 76. This
> would probably have been in 81 or possibly
> 82 if I recall correctly.

> I am certainly no expert on these little
> GE's and it has been so long ago I am not
> sure of any of the above details except my
> trips to work on one or more 44 tonners. I
> think I may have actually worked on both.
> However I am sure the Lykens Valley did not
> exist in 1972. That should have been the
> year Hurricane Agnes closed the line due to
> flooding. Is it possible the 10 was actually
> leased in 1982 and the 1972 is a typo or am
> I completely wrong about all of this?

> John Bohon


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Rail Tours Locomotives: All-Time Roster
PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:34 pm 

> Are you sure the dates this locomotive was
> leased to the Lykens Valley are correct? I
> was working for Mercersburg Railway in 1979
> and 80. The Lykens Valley was a sister
> railroad and the first operated by the
> parent company, Northmont Industries.
> Originally the LKVY was operated with Alco
> S-2 number 1 which was moved to Mercersburg
> when that railroad started. A 44 tonner was
> moved to Millersburg to replace number 1 in
> 79 or 80. I recall taking batteries to
> Millersburg and doing some prep work to get
> this GE started. I believe this was ex WM
> 76.

> Eventually the LKVY became the property of a
> fellow named Don Moryer. I think it was he
> who brought in the 10 to replace 76. This
> would probably have been in 81 or possibly
> 82 if I recall correctly.

> I am certainly no expert on these little
> GE's and it has been so long ago I am not
> sure of any of the above details except my
> trips to work on one or more 44 tonners. I
> think I may have actually worked on both.
> However I am sure the Lykens Valley did not
> exist in 1972. That should have been the
> year Hurricane Agnes closed the line due to
> flooding. Is it possible the 10 was actually
> leased in 1982 and the 1972 is a typo or am
> I completely wrong about all of this?

> John Bohon
Both of Jack Showalters's CP G-5's are stored in Staunton, Va. I don't believe there is such a place as Stanton WV. Gary

ggrayrke@msn.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Rail Tours Locomotives: All-Time Roster
PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:50 pm 

> Both of Jack Showalters's CP G-5's are
> stored in Staunton, Va. (Pronounced Stanton)

Another minor correction, Kurt. In Virginia it's Alleghany (with an h, unlike Pennsylvania and W. Maryland). Both the 1238 and 1286 last operated with Virginia Central on their tenders.


hcastle@rcn.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: BEDT roster
PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:55 pm 

> The one on Long Island is the #16, which was
> the last to operate on the BEDT I
> understand.

#16 used to reside at the end of my street here in Brooklyn for many years after she was retired in 1962. I am glad she's getting the good attention she needs. Alot of interesting stories have been told about when she was getting saved a while back.

janklorenzen@msn.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Rail Tours Locomotives: All-Time Roster
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 1:04 am 

>A 44 tonner was moved to Millersburg to replace number 1 in 79 or 80. I recall taking batteries to Millersburg >and doing some prep work to get this GE started. I believe this was ex WM 76.

According to the information included in George Hart's roster in this thread, the GE 44 Ton locomotive was not ex-Western Maryland 76.

According to Mr. Hart, the build date and number for #10 was 08/46 28503. The corresponding data for WM 76 is 08/43 17935.

WM 76 was sold to U.S. Plywood in September 1964. I don't know how long it remained there. It is currently in Arkville, NY on the Delaware and Ulster Railride. If anyone can help me fill in the years between U.S. Plywood and D&U I would like to hear from you.

Gerald Altizer
WesternMarylandSurvivors@yahoogroups.com


gerald_altizer@atlanticbb.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Rail Tours Locomotives: All-Time Roster
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 11:20 am 

An email from Wayne Laepple this morning confirms my memory that WM 76 was at Lykens Valley around or sometime after 1980. He remembers it comming after the 10 but I seem to recall 76 being the first 44 tonner on LKVY. I can find nothing in my records refering to either of these engines so I am not sure of the time frame.

John Bohon

>According to the information included in
> George Hart's roster in this thread, the GE
> 44 Ton locomotive was not ex-Western
> Maryland 76.

> According to Mr. Hart, the build date and
> number for #10 was 08/46 28503. The
> corresponding data for WM 76 is 08/43 17935.

> WM 76 was sold to U.S. Plywood in September
> 1964. I don't know how long it remained
> there. It is currently in Arkville, NY on
> the Delaware and Ulster Railride. If anyone
> can help me fill in the years between U.S.
> Plywood and D&U I would like to hear
> from you.

> Gerald Altizer
> WesternMarylandSurvivors@yahoogroups.com


jhbohon@yahoo.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: BEDT roster
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 12:37 pm 

Thanks for all the links and their information. I didn't realize that so many of the BEDT steamers were still around. (I do know that the NYD 44+ tonners didn't fare as well; what, one out of five?)

> For the survivors, go to
> steamlocomotive.info, click on search, go
> down to railroad name and type in
> "brooklyn eastern district
> terminal." The wording needs to be
> exact in order to bring up links to the five
> survivors.

> For rosters and some historical info, follow
> the link.


edm5970@earthlink.net


  
 
 Post subject: BEDT #16 Today 8/8/04 *PIC*
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 7:21 pm 

Talking of BEDT #16...I drove over to the Riverhead Yard and Railroad Museum of Long Island today and snapped this picture of it for everyone to see who hasn't been out to Riverhead at all, or recently. It's in sorry shape cosmetically, but inside it seems to be pretty intact from what I heard and the boiler is in decent shape too. The museum was very empty today, except for what looked like a camp tour. I managed to take pictures before any people got in the way. Up at Frank Field's 16" gauge railroad in Greenport, there were nearly 50 people and 20+ cars in the lot, not to mention gravel-kicking little kids and other things. As we parked our car at Claudio's Wharf just after noon, the horn from the southbound Scoot could be heard. I did not see it to be able to count the cars or anything. We've been seeing quite a few DM30s on our branch recently, don't know what was pulling the Scoot today.

BEDT #16 PHOTO (backup URL)
Image
ed.kelley@discoverlivesteam.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: BEDT #16 Today 8/8/04
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 7:30 pm 

thanks ed

does anyone have a pic of her in the 80's when she sat outside on Kent Ave I need one for the museums archives.
mike arnold

BEDT16RMLI@aol.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: BEDT #16 in 1959 *PIC*
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 9:06 pm 

One of my favorite pictures of my dad's. And to think my mom was waiting somewhere nearby, as they were on their honeymoon!

Image
SJHussar@aol.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: BEDT #16 in 1959
PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:43 am 

> One of my favorite pictures of my dad's. And
> to think my mom was waiting somewhere
> nearby, as they were on their honeymoon!
beautiful picture.

bedt16rmli@aol.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: BEDT #16 Today 8/8/04
PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:29 am 

At the risk of having my head snapped off, I would assert that this is exactly why museums need some operating piece of equipment (preferably steam). People will come to what is unusual and attractive. In my opinion - and it is just that- folks will bring Junior out to see a small steamr puff up and down 300 feet of track with a caboose behind it. How cost effective? Errrr...I don't know (but I'm sure I'll hear it!)
How is the RRM of LI coming toward getting their G5 to a shop?

glueck@maine.edu


  
 
 Post subject: LIRR G5 #39
PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:37 am 

I posted a picture I took of the #39 yesterday as well on RailroadForums.com (photo gallery, under steam and tourist railroads or whatever). I'm not home and on dialup, I can't get the site to work right now so I can't get a direct link. I'll try later but it shouldn't be hard to find given I just posted it yesterday. Sorry shape, and they've supposedly been talking about restoring it for years. Now they do have the green, but the work hasn't started or been given to a specific contractor to perform the overhaul. They're supposed to be taking bids on that soon.

Keep Steaming,
Ed Kelley

Go Here for Photos
ed.kelley@discoverlivesteam.com


  
 
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