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 Post subject: Abandoned Steamer in NJ saved
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:22 pm 

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I was aware of an abandoned 2' gauge locomotive recently, from browsing steamlocomotive.com:
http://steamlocomotive.com/lists/search.php?str=carter+construction&country=USA

Yesterday this locomotive was removed for preservation, according to the Railfan and Railroad news site:
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Last winter, a two-foot gauge Baldwin 0-4-0T that had been used in the construction of the Lackawanna Cutoff across New Jersey was discovered in Andover, N.J. Its discovery had not been announced then because the ground had not frozen hard enough for it to be removed. But on January 13, 2011 Carter Construction Co. No. 31 (c/n 34797, June 1910), one of three engines built at the same time, was trucked out of the Westby Farm, where it had sat for nearly 100 years, to a secure storage site in Sparta. It is thought to have been used to move fill and material during the construction of the Pequest Fill in the early part of the 20th Century and was accompanied by the remains of a small, four-wheel car. No. 31 will be cosmetically restored and eventually put on display at the former Susquehanna Sparta depot.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:37 am 

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Please see the other thread on this, where I have posted the reasons I believe the DL&W connection is false.


http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30716

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I never thought of "humus" as a commercial product, "hummus", yes, it's a food product of Middle Eastern or Mediterranean origin, but "humus" is something found in the woods, and I had never heard of it being gathered for sale or industrial use. Learn something new every day!

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 Post subject: Re: Abandoned Steamer in NJ saved
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I'm curious, but has there been any other developments on this engine? Everything I've managed to track down is seven years old at this point...

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Speculation on my part, so take with a grain of salt -- the original plan was to display the locomotive at a museum to be established in the former Susquehanna station at Sparta. Shortly thereafter, the station burned to the ground. A replica has now been constructed on the original site. Now that the station is back, perhaps movement on restoring the locomotive will commence.

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 Post subject: Re: Abandoned Steamer in NJ saved
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:50 am 

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Or, since it is a two footer, send it over to Youngstown for a full rebuild! 58 is almost finished and I'll be looking for another project.

It would be a shame to let it just sit on display when it is a small manageable sized locomotive that would not be too big of a job to rebuild, even if it would need a new boiler.

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I like your spirit, Rick.

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I'm pretty sure we could find a home for it at the WW&F, too. Does anyone know the real status/ownership?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:53 am 

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Rick Rowlands wrote:
It would be a shame to let it just sit on display when it is a small manageable sized locomotive that would not be too big of a job to rebuild, even if it would need a new boiler.


You're right on that Rick. If no one is doing anything with it, I've got a few people I've been working with chomping at the bit to get involved in a project like this, even if it's only a cosmetic restoration... Even static it could be an excellent teaching tool, and because of it's size it's not a major hassle to move it around. Although looking at the original picture, saying it would need a new boiler is an understatement... Seems a good chunk of the barrel rotted away!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:27 pm 

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It looks just like that 36" gauge Baldwin 0-4-0T that was in the gondola car at the Mad River & NKP Museum that I helped haul out for it's new owner last year.

Do all Baldwins fall apart like that after their first century in existence?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:31 pm 

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Rick Rowlands wrote:
It looks just like that 36" gauge Baldwin 0-4-0T that was in the gondola car at the Mad River & NKP Museum that I helped haul out for it's new owner last year.

Do all Baldwins fall apart like that after their first century in existence?

I would imagine they do if that century is spent entirely outside...

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Rick Rowlands wrote:
Do all Baldwins fall apart like that after their first century in existence?

“When one hundred years old you reach, look as good you will not.” - Wise Green Muppet


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:18 pm 

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Ok what am I missing? The boiler looks intact. I see jacketing hanging down and some rusty sheet metal near the backhead? Enlighten me guys! Regards, John.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:00 am 

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Baldwins of that time period didn't have very thick boilers to begin with. Probably wrought iron, possibly lap seam.

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 Post subject: Re: Abandoned Steamer in NJ saved
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:55 am 

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John Risley wrote:
Ok what am I missing? The boiler looks intact. I see jacketing hanging down and some rusty sheet metal near the backhead? Enlighten me guys! Regards, John.

One of the pieces hanging out from under the boiler. Totally different material than the saddle tank or one of the remaining jacket pieces if the picture means anything... Regardless, where is this thing now? Still stored somewhere in Sparta?

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