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 Post subject: Re: 765 Over Horseshoe Curve
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:32 am 

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765 leading a train in cab signal territory???


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 Post subject: Re: 765 Over Horseshoe Curve
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:49 am 

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Yes she willl lead! Was posted on another forum by a crew member that NS is assisiting with the insallation of a cab signal system on the 765 so it can lead the train. They will also have the NS 8100 (NKP) with them on the ferry moves.


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 Post subject: Re: 765 Over Horseshoe Curve
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:27 am 

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And it may sound a little like this:

http://www.semaphorerecords.com/semapho ... kp%201.wma

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 Post subject: Re: 765 Over Horseshoe Curve
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:53 am 

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Though I knew it to be true upon seeing the Title of the thread..... I couldn't help but think, "i guess april first can come twice in one year". Great things are happening this year!

Cheers, Jason


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 Post subject: Re: 765 Over Horseshoe Curve
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:44 am 

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First it's 1966, with the 630 and (hopefully soon) the 4501. Now it's 1968-1970, and Ross Rowland's High Iron Company again, too.

Well, not quite, it's not the 759, and it isn't Rowland, and Horseshoe has only three tracks, but history is beginning to come back.

I'll bet Ross is going to want to make this trip to Altoona with a camera. . .and I hope to get there myself. . .hope the crowd isn't too large. . .

And of course, thank you , NS!!


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 Post subject: Re: 765 Over Horseshoe Curve
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:53 am 

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I think I'll go up this weekend and stake out a position on the cliffs on the left-hand side..... and erect a tent and wait.......

And I don't wanna hear ONE [bleep]ING WORD about "freeloaders not buying a ticket"!


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 Post subject: Re: 765 Over Horseshoe Curve
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 10:52 am 

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Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
I think I'll go up this weekend and stake out a position on the cliffs on the left-hand side..... and erect a tent and wait.......

And I don't wanna hear ONE [bleep]ING WORD about "freeloaders not buying a ticket"!


I want to see someone try and say that, considering the trips aren't open to the public in the first place. I'm pretty sure, as time goes on, you won't be the only one up there with a tent.

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 Post subject: Re: 765 Over Horseshoe Curve
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:50 am 

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Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
I don't wanna hear ONE [bleep]ING WORD about "freeloaders not buying a ticket"!
Are tickets being sold for this trip? Other rumors claim it's an employees only trip.
TAN: If you can't wait, this link to a movie compilation does include steam on Horseshoe curve!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQzXCoQRbas


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 Post subject: Re: 765 Over Horseshoe Curve
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:35 pm 

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'' ...hope the crowd isn't too large ''

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca9GuwuOVZc

The place is packed when the E-8s go up there! We know how it will be with steam.


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:14 pm 
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When was a steam locomotive most recently on the curve, anyway, and which engine was it?

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 Post subject: Re: 765 Over Horseshoe Curve
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:18 pm 

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p51 wrote:
When was a steam locomotive most recently on the curve, anyway, and which engine was it?


From the linked article:
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The last steam over Horseshoe Curve was rather inauspicious – a downhill, towed-by-diesels deadhead of Reading 2102 on its way to the Blue Mountain & Reading in 1985. The last operating steam was 2102 and Grand Trunk 4070 in 1977. 765′s stablemate 759 made a pair of trips between Harrisburg and Gallitzin in September, 1970.


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 Post subject: Re: 765 Over Horseshoe Curve
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:00 pm 

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railfanespee wrote:
p51 wrote:
When was a steam locomotive most recently on the curve, anyway, and which engine was it?


From the linked article:
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The last steam over Horseshoe Curve was rather inauspicious – a downhill, towed-by-diesels deadhead of Reading 2102 on its way to the Blue Mountain & Reading in 1985. The last operating steam was 2102 and Grand Trunk 4070 in 1977. 765′s stablemate 759 made a pair of trips between Harrisburg and Gallitzin in September, 1970.


Agreed that the 1985 transfer of 2102 would have been THE last movement on wheels.

Add to the mix Sloan Cornell's transfer of rolling stock from the Penn View Mountain RR to Gettysburg via Horse Shoe, including an in-steam ex-Mississippian 2-8-0 76 (traversed July 18, 1976) and the operation of the American Freedom Train 1 up over the Curve on July 6, 1976 en route west from Harrisburg (they stopped to pose for photos with 1361 for National Geographic, and then couldn't get the train started again without diesels). The Steam Tours trips of October 1976 (Pittsburgh-Altoona) were 2102/diesel, their May 15, 1977 trip with 2102 and 4070 came to grief with 4070 disassembling its right-hand valve gear (eccentric snapped at the reverse yoke) a mile from the Curve, with the emergency stop breaking the train into three pieces. A further trip was slated for May 22nd, 1977, but I don't know what happened to that run. Suffice it to say that steam was MOST unwelcome after that May 15th run.

There may be one more technicality--N&W 475 may have traversed the Curve on flat cars en route from Iowa to Strasburg ca. 1988.....


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 Post subject: Re: 765 Over Horseshoe Curve
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:02 pm 

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Once again, history gets trashed!

In 1985, the 2102 was not being ''towed'', the diesels were used for dynamic brakes to go down the mountain, by order of Conrail management.

AND

The 2102 WAS NOT going to the BM&R. (that was in '86)
RCT&HS leased 2102, brought her to Reading for her 40th Birthday Bash,
then ran two weekends of excursions, and paid all the bills to do so.
(I know. I was RCT&HS President then, and wrote all the checks to do this.)

3 Cheers to 765, and to NS for allowing this.


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 Post subject: Re: 765 Over Horseshoe Curve
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:21 pm 

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Where does PRR 1361 fit into the chronology, since it moved about halfway around the curve on its own wheels?


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 Post subject: Re: 765 Over Horseshoe Curve
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:40 pm 

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I cant even begin to imagine the amount of railfans that are going to be there.

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