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 Post subject: Re: 1948 Chicago Railroad Fair
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:33 pm 

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I grew up in San Diego, and have spent essentially my whole life here. By the 1970's, I had been to Chicago once, between Christmas and New Years of 1959 or 60. We spent most of a day there between trains, having come in from Washington in the morning, and scheduled to depart that evening on UP's City of LA. We about froze to death, but we did manage to spend some time at the Museum of Science and Industry.

In the '70s, early in my 29 year career at Kelco in San Diego, my boss was a guy from Chicago. He was always going on about what a great and famous guy his wife's father was, Maj. Lenox Lohr, head of the Museum of Science and Industry. Of course I'd never heard of Lohr, but I did manage to tell my boss, that, yes, I had been to the Museum of Science and Industry once. My boss tended to inflate things a bit, so I didn't think much more about Lohr.

Now, take a look at the page shown in the program that listed all the railroad officials. Right at the top is Lenox Lohr! I Googled him, and it turns out he was also the head of the Century of Progress exposition in the '30's, and head of NBC. Guess my boss wasn't inflating his father-in-law too much.


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 Post subject: Chicago and Eastern Illinois 222
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:53 pm 

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I was surprised to see an Atlantic locomotive in the background of the film. I figured it might be one of the few remaining Atlantics, but C&EI 222 was later scrapped.


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 Post subject: Re: Chicago and Eastern Illinois 222
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:23 pm 

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Chris Salmonson wrote:
I was surprised to see an Atlantic locomotive in the background of the film. I figured it might be one of the few remaining Atlantics, but C&EI 222 was later scrapped.


Chris -

Yes, but not quite 100%. The valve gear of the 222 was preserved at Chicago's famous Museum of Science & Industry. If you press a button, the gear does its "thing". Often wondered why the museum didn't try to save the entire locomotive as it seemed it would have made a nice MofS&I addition, especially since at that time, the museum did not yet have New York Central 4-4-0 #999, or AT&SF Northern #2903. After years of outside display, the Santa Fe 4-8-4 was, of course, eventually donated to Illinois Railway Museum and removed from museum property. Sure wish the C&EI Atlantic had been saved. She sure was a pretty thing.

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 Post subject: Re: 1948 Chicago Railroad Fair
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:05 pm 

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Richard Glueck wrote:
I suppose the day for celebrating railroad technology as a public festival has come and gone...


I seem to recall a mini version of the railroad fair in the South Water Market area east of Chicago's Loop sometime 1966-1968. It was probably more on an industry trade fair, But I was in high school at the time and don't recall having any trouble getting in. I don't recall taking any pix... in fact, I don't recall much of the displays... one of the minority builders (must have been GE because ALCO was gone by that time) had a locomotive on loan from the IC on display, and International Car Co. had a caboose on display, surprisingly not one of their standard wide cupola jobs, but a bay window caboose. The thing I recall most about the caboose was the Rockwell "high speed" trucks. The only place I've ever seen any other examples of this truck is on a couple newly built ballast hoppers for the CTA "L" lines. Guess the engineers liked the additional trolley rail clearance this design offered.

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 Post subject: Re: 1948 Chicago Railroad Fair
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:16 pm 

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Dennis -

I remember something like this down near the IC's Central Station. I walked over to take a look one lunchtime from my office building in the Loop. Don't remember what was there EXCEPT that some outfit had a crane that was lifting up the end of a C&NW Baby Trainmaster. The unit had probably been (or was soon to be) retired by the NorthWestern. It's the only photo I ever got of one!

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 Post subject: Re: 1948 Chicago Railroad Fair
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:25 pm 

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There are still railway equipment trade shows and some are held in Chicago.

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 Post subject: Re: 1948 Chicago Railroad Fair
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:24 pm 
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Jim Baker wrote:
He was always going on about what a great and famous guy his wife's father was, Maj. Lenox Lohr, head of the Museum of Science and Industry. Of course I'd never heard of Lohr, but I did manage to tell my boss, that, yes, I had been to the Museum of Science and Industry once. My boss tended to inflate things a bit, so I didn't think much more about Lohr.

Now, take a look at the page shown in the program that listed all the railroad officials. Right at the top is Lenox Lohr! I Googled him, and it turns out he was also the head of the Century of Progress exposition in the '30's, and head of NBC. Guess my boss wasn't inflating his father-in-law too much.
I never heard of Major Lenox Lohr. I'm glad I scanned that page since your mention of Lohr revealed this:

http://www.iridetheharlemline.com/tag/trains/

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Never knew this.

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 Post subject: Re: 1948 Chicago Railroad Fair
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:33 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: 1948 Chicago Railroad Fair
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:37 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: 1948 Chicago Railroad Fair
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:27 am 

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Steve: I'm glad you scanned something that seems so mundane as a list of people who were involved. You never know who might turn up! I'll need to take some time later to really read through all the pages you scanned. But, I'm a bit involved with other things the next couple of days: Conductor on a sold out train to the North Pole Friday night, and engineer on two trains to the same place Saturday, church choir Sunday. Whew.


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 Post subject: Re: 1948 Chicago Railroad Fair
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:07 pm 

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Here's another pic of C&EI 222 at the Fair.


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 Post subject: Re: 1948 Chicago Railroad Fair
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:55 pm 
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machinehead61 wrote:
I never heard of Major Lenox Lohr. I'm glad I scanned that page since your mention of Lohr revealed this:

http://www.iridetheharlemline.com/tag/trains/

Never knew this.

Steve


Pretty impressive site for a young girl to have put together.

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 Post subject: Re: 1948 Chicago Railroad Fair
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:17 pm 
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Someone included a photo from my Railroad Fair site, http://www.railarchive.net/rrfair/. Material there has come from several contributors, and I would be glad to add additional photos or other material to the site (crediting the source, of course), to bring as much together in one place as possible. I only have the 1949 program book, so the 1948 book would be a good addition. If you have such material you would be willing to share, I would be glad to hear from you. Email rleonard@railarchive.net. Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: 1948 Chicago Railroad Fair
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:33 pm 
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Jim Baker wrote:
Steve: I'm glad you scanned something that seems so mundane as a list of people who were involved. You never know who might turn up! I'll need to take some time later to really read through all the pages you scanned. But, I'm a bit involved with other things the next couple of days: Conductor on a sold out train to the North Pole Friday night, and engineer on two trains to the same place Saturday, church choir Sunday. Whew.

That is exactly why I'm scanning every page, details that some people might think trivial can prove to be valuable to somebody else. This guide was my Dad's which I found in his basement and I'm more than happy to share. It is in excellent condition since it has been in storage for untold years.

Sounds like you are one busy person.

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 Post subject: Re: 1948 Chicago Railroad Fair
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:35 pm 
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Jeff Lisowski wrote:
Pretty impressive site for a young girl to have put together.

I didn't even notice but you're right - a young lady is the creator of that website.

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