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 Post subject: Re: Pullman Rail Journeys Buys Another Observation
PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 9:50 am 

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Wilkins, discussing the financial status of the company, misses point of J3a-614 (about bike trail advocates), which itself oddly classified the operator of the Santa Cruz Railroad operation equivalent with a volunteer railfan tourist railroad in NY state... not quite the same. However the community of people who are hounding these railroads might be similar, yet the crowd in Santa Cruz is beyond both poster's imagination as far as the type of left-leaning perspectives and the constant misunderstanding of railroad operating authority. Frankly, the Santa Cruz progressives are a powerful local influence, and it has resulted in very interesting changes in that region, as well as odd and contentious politics.

I would recommend for the Santa Cruz operation to find as many paths, perhaps literally some bike paths, for appeasing the Monterey Bay residents. The railroad trestles in the area could be important links to the community, and doing so would obviously require additional funds such as those provided through the state highway department for bike trails and such. Or perhaps operate a battery or hybrid trolley car to shuttle beach goers during the summer. Parking is at a premium, so a park-n-ride operation could be feasibly studied. Operating with green-fuel freight engines would also be a popular step, if possible. I probably would not bother bringing a steam engine there, except on rare occasion, or otherwise one could expect a great upheaval about the air pollution.


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 Post subject: Re: Pullman Rail Journeys Buys Another Observation
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:29 pm 

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What is the current status of Pullman Rail Journeys?

It got some publicity when it initially started, and I don't recall hearing anything more.

The website seems to indicate roughly weekly trips (it seems to vary from 4 to 10 day intervals, give or take), have they been running as planned? Anyone have a feel for patronage? Obviously they do, but I don't expect them to post ridership numbers. Just wondering if anyone has a general idea of how it's going.


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 Post subject: Re: Pullman Rail Journeys Buys Another Observation
PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:35 pm 

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Rainier Rails wrote:
Mr. Ellis' company Iowa Pacific now owns four round end observations and one blunt end observation (all are streamlined heavyweights).

Round end cars:
IC #3305 "Mardi Gras" (formerly owned by the New Orleans Chapter and later the Roanoke Chapter of the NRHS; built as #2188).
IC #3306 "Audubon Park" (built as #2175).
IC #3310 "Pontchartrain Club" (formerly the PV "Eaton," had been the "Mark Beaubien" under IC ownership; built as #2189).
IC #3320 "Paducah" (built as #2173).

All four round end cars had been built as 88 seat coaches by Pullman in 1916-17 (lot #4406) and rebuilt to observations circa 1947. As the linked article briefly mentions, the #3305 & #3306 were indeed assigned to the "City of New Orleans" (trains #1 & #2), while the #3310 was assigned to trains #19 & #20, and the #3320 was part of the general "streamline service" pool.

Blunt end car:
IC #3378 "Calumet Club" (formerly the #3308; built as #2211).
The #3378 (ex-#3308) had been built as an 88 seat coach by Pullman in 1918 (lot #4519) and rebuilt to an observation circa 1951.
o anderson wrote:
So, aside from the 4 cars in Ed Ellis ownership, and the body of Gulfport at the museum in Monticello, IL, do any other IC streamlined obs cars survive?
Rainier Rails wrote:
Well, if we're just counting round end observations, here's a list:
#3300 "Bamboo Grove": according to http://icrr.net/passenger.htm, the #3300 is currently in Ormond Beach, FL, and was previously owned by the New Orleans Chapter of the NRHS (which also formerly owned the #3305).
As mentioned by O. Anderson, the Monticello Railway Museum owns the #3312 "Gulfport."
As previously mentioned, #3305, #3306, #3310 & #3320 are owned by Iowa Pacific.
This is a total of 6 surviving IC round end observations.

If we're also counting blunt end observations, this would also include:
#3307 "Mid-America Club": also according to http://icrr.net/passenger.htm, the #3307 is on the Fox River Railroad in Green Bay.
As previously mentioned, #3378 (ex-#3308) is owned by Iowa Pacific.
This is a total of 2 surviving IC blunt end observations.

Altogether, this is a grand total of 8 surviving IC observations.


An update (info from http://icrr.net)--

The #3307/#3377 Mid-America Club is now on the Cape Cod Central in dinner train service as CCCR #200 Cape Codder. The Cape Cod Central is owned by Iowa Pacific, which puts the SLRG total at six (four round end and two blunt end).

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 Post subject: Re: Pullman Rail Journeys Buys Another Observation
PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:50 pm 

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...which puts the SLRG total at six (four round end and two blunt end).


Keep in mind that there is a difference between a blunt end observation car, which has the sides curving around the end of the car, and a flat end observation, which is basically the typical car end with windows in it. Iowa Pacific owns examples of all three types from three builders (Budd, IC and PS).

The Mount Hood's 904 Hood River (ex-ARR 10) is a good example of a flat end car, as is SLRG 3378 Calumet Club (ex-WICT, nee-IC)...

http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3687690
http://trainweb.org/vrt/RioGrandeScenic/640/IMG_0679%20-%20Copy.jpg

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 Post subject: Re: Pullman Rail Journeys Buys Another Observation
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:26 am 

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The was a great long form piece on CBS Sunday Morning this morning. While not focused on the railfan, it is definately worth viewing.

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