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 Post subject: Re: America's Newest Steam Locomotive - York #17 (Photos)
PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:08 pm 

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Framework going up in steel; from the look of the foundation (very low wall on the track side, see photo of shop with pit above), it almost looks like one wall could be mostly of glass for viewing. Not real traditional, but possibly a nice showcase for a machine that looks more like a piece of jewelry than a locomotive! :-D

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater


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 Post subject: Re: America's Newest Steam Locomotive - York #17 (Photos)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:12 am 

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A friend reported last week that both Leviathan and York would be together at New Freedom in early November for a "reenactment" of the Great Locomotive Chase between the General and the Texas. Even if it's a bit hokey and touristy, should be a great sight to have both of them running together, probably for one time only.


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 Post subject: Re: America's Newest Steam Locomotive - York #17 (Photos)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:14 pm 

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Reenactment? Well.........in a sort of kind of way.

I'd ask the Georgia Northeastern if they would allow a much closer to historical reenactment to be produced on their railroad, if I wanted to stage such an event. I'd also try for the boxcars, and see if i could find a stand-in for Yonah and William R Smith.

GNR parallels the olkd W&A a slight bit to the west, with one end in Marietta and the other just barely in Tennessee. The scenery is very much the same, less developed than the W&A once out of metro Atlanta. There's a bit of a yard at the Quarry where the sawby stuff could be reencated.

Damn, this is almost sounding practical........

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 Post subject: Re: America's Newest Steam Locomotive - York #17 (Photos)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:59 pm 

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rob216 wrote:
From the top picture of the pit and engine house, looks like its going to be a tight fit to get around the engine to do any work on it. Let alone just trying to walk around it.


"...and if we take another foot off, then how much?"

Half kidding, though it does seem oddly tight.

No tools or workbench on those walls towards the rear.

Whose building is the shed attached to?

Any cosmetics planned for it?

/Mitch


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 Post subject: Re: America's Newest Steam Locomotive - York #17 (Photos)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:30 pm 

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Mgoldman wrote:
Whose building is the shed attached to?

Any cosmetics planned for it?

/Mitch


I believe the building in the background is the rear of the headquarters and ticket office building of Steam Into History in New Freedom.

Street view from the front:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

Don't know anything more about appearances than you do. Could be pure function, or it could have one wall almost entirely of glass to give a good look at this jewel of a locomotive when it isn't running. Can't tell yet, too early, we'll just have to wait and see what's actually built.


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 Post subject: Re: America's Newest Steam Locomotive - York #17 (Photos)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:17 pm 

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Where is this photo taken?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151534812107567&set=pb.254509512566.-2207520000.1380680168.&type=3&theater

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 Post subject: Re: America's Newest Steam Locomotive - York #17 (Photos)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:30 pm 

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That shot is from a steaming test at Kloke Locomotive Works prior to delivery; it's in this set of photos from there.

http://www.leviathan63.com/projectYork.html

How many of us wish Kloke Locomotive was really Rogers or Schenectady or even Baldwin, Mason, Patterson, Richmond, Brooks, or Pittsburgh, and the 17 was just another engine among many on order from different roads?

(Can't include Lima in that list--they weren't in business yet!)


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 Post subject: Re: America's Newest Steam Locomotive - York #17 (Photos)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:00 am 

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Shop building nearing completion--nice window section where you can look at No. 17 when it's inside, but oh, does it look even skinnier now!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

This looks to be little more than a shortline engine shed, maybe you can do inspections and maybe even change out tubes, but that may be about it. Likely any heavy work will have to be done elsewhere. Of course, it also helps that the 17 is as small as it is; would be interesting to see what tools Steam Into History/Northern Central will squeeze into there.

The 17 with the new cars, the others having been returned:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater


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 Post subject: Re: America's Newest Steam Locomotive - York #17 (Photos)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:26 am 

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I suspect they could not get an easement onto the county rail-trail right of way, that would be why it is so skinny.

As far as re-enacting the Great Locomotive Chase, the answer is only 40 miles south (ala Walt Disney). The LaFayette standing in as the Yonah, and any kind of bit role for the 25. Although the 25 is in the middle of its 1472 inspection.

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 Post subject: Re: America's Newest Steam Locomotive - York #17 (Photos)
PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:43 pm 

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Principle subject of this photo by Gervaise Littley Feeley from SIH/NCRR's Facebook shows a crew member decorating the train with evergreens for the Christmas runs, but an apparently completed shop building is visible to the right. Arrrgh, too many reflections to see inside!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

More seasonal decorating, photo courtesy of Anthony R. De Seta:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

Horse drawn transport now connects with the SIH/NCRR, in a photo by Chris Howard that will be appreciated by some of our readers who work with a railroad that is animal-powered:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

I will quote one Bill Hutchinson of Florida, who has been one of the supporters of the Adirondack Scenic and who wrote to me when he saw this photo by Gervaise Littley Feeley, "Look...look!!! What's that next to the tracks??? Why, it's a TRAIL!!!"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

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 Post subject: Re: America's Newest Steam Locomotive - York #17 (Photos)
PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:04 pm 

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Speaking of Kloke, who is the Lyon being built for, and when is it supposed to be done?


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 Post subject: Re: America's Newest Steam Locomotive - York #17 (Photos)
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:08 am 

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In watching the Golden Spike re-enactment video, I was really impressed by how lovely these locomotives are, and how nice the right of way looks. Well done all the way around!

One thing I did notice is that the pistons on the York are inclined slightly, while those on the Leviathan are parallel to the rails. I was under the (rather vague) impression that both locomotives were built to the same design, or close to it?

Why were the pistons inclined? Historical accuracy I presume?

For that matter, why were they inclined on the original locomotive? What was the thinking of that design?


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 Post subject: Re: America's Newest Steam Locomotive - York #17 (Photos)
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:53 am 

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Bobharbison wrote:
In watching the Golden Spike re-enactment video, I was really impressed by how lovely these locomotives are, and how nice the right of way looks. Well done all the way around!

One thing I did notice is that the pistons on the York are inclined slightly, while those on the Leviathan are parallel to the rails. I was under the (rather vague) impression that both locomotives were built to the same design, or close to it?

Why were the pistons inclined? Historical accuracy I presume?

For that matter, why were they inclined on the original locomotive? What was the thinking of that design?


If I recall correctly, the York's design plans were based off of UP 119 out at Golden Spike NHS. If you look at pictures of 119, they are also inclined. As to why this was done on the original 119, I have no clue.

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 Post subject: Re: America's Newest Steam Locomotive - York #17 (Photos)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:09 am 

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Some great photos here--the closest we may be able to approach to stepping into a Currier & Ives print.

http://buildy.smugmug.com/Other/12-13-1 ... &k=B34mCNs

This has to be one of the prettiest steamers running today--and this is from a fellow from the big-and-black school!


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 Post subject: Re: America's Newest Steam Locomotive - York #17 (Photos)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:13 am 

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Mark Z. Yerkes wrote:
If I recall correctly, the York's design plans were based off of UP 119 out at Golden Spike NHS. If you look at pictures of 119, they are also inclined. As to why this was done on the original 119, I have no clue.


My own recollection is that the inclined cylinders were a holdover in design from the earlier, short-wheelbase lead trucks of early 4-4-0s. Those cylinders had to be set high because the truck and the wheels were right beneath them.

It was a bit of an anachronism by the time the 119 was built, but it was something Rogers was still doing, so it's in the replica, too.


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