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 Post subject: Re: Saginaw Timber Co. No. 2 Boiler Lift and Installation
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:53 pm 

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John Risley wrote:
After watching video of the new home to be, I can definitely see the attraction. To see the #2 running in that beautiful country will be rewarding. For the #2 and the owners, congratulations. To the Oregon Coast Scenic RR congratulations. To those at Mid Continent who orchestrated this whole thing I guess congratulations to you too. Seems this is a real win win situation. Regards, John.

Who wins at Mid-Continent? Not the visitors and not the membership, for sure.


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 Post subject: Re: Saginaw Timber Co. No. 2 Boiler Lift and Installation
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:08 pm 

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The winners are those who prevented it from happening at Mid Continent. They may not have considered it at the time, or consider themselves winners now, but they got what they worked for whether they like it or not.

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 Post subject: Re: Saginaw Timber Co. No. 2 Boiler Lift and Installation
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:44 am 

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I don't believe that the following has been discussed here yet, when the 2 went East around 1962 from Washington State on her own wheels (largely over the N.P.), she did so with a messenger. This was covered in an older issue of Railroad magazine

That person was Jim Gertz, a Rayonier employee, but at the other WA operation, that out of Sekiu and called the Clallam County operation.

Jim just passed about a year and a half ago. He was a great gent and in a real irony, also owned a Rayonier steam locomotive numbered 2. It was 75-3 class Willamette s/n 34, the last one built and recently rebuilt at Mount Rainier Scenic RR in Mineral, WA. Jim stored it at his property near the airport in Port Angeles, WA for close to 40 years.


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 Post subject: Re: Saginaw Timber Co. No. 2 Boiler Lift and Installation
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:42 pm 

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Dave gets it! It doesn't matter if you like what you have created or even if one takes responsibility for his own creations. You get the results regardless. There is no judgment in this and even if there was it would not change anything. The decision was made to continue this to the end result and the end result is what it is. We have multiple winners, just not an abundance of happy people.

We the membership do not have to like it, the owner does not have to like it, the BOD do not have to like it. Whether you as an individual choose marriage, buy a property or sell, try crack cocaine and have indiscriminate sex with multiple partners, it is a choice. You may or may not like the consequences. The real lesson is of course to become aware that choices and consequences are directly related to each other. To keep putting your hand on a hot stove burner does not mean the blankety blank stove is at fault. It is a belief system failure that fails to recognize ones own creation. Be it personal or corporate.

Please do not say a "leased pc of equipment" caused all this trouble, it ain't so. To continue any program or path that continues to "not work" and think that "as if by magic it will work" is nothing short of insane. As individuals, especially when we were younger we may have resembled this remark. Every once in a while you may need to do a reality check and see if your grandiose plans don't need tweaking or even scrapping. I learned from women that it is ok to change your mind when needed. Won't go into this any further it could get expensive. Oh I guess it has already and will continue too by the sounds of it.

Regards, John.


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 Post subject: Re: Saginaw Timber Co. No. 2 Boiler Lift and Installation
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:34 pm 

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John,
Very insightful on many levels. Logical thought processors are few and far between these days.
Matt



John Risley wrote:
Dave gets it! It doesn't matter if you like what you have created or even if one takes responsibility for his own creations. You get the results regardless. There is no judgment in this and even if there was it would not change anything. The decision was made to continue this to the end result and the end result is what it is. We have multiple winners, just not an abundance of happy people.

We the membership do not have to like it, the owner does not have to like it, the BOD do not have to like it. Whether you as an individual choose marriage, buy a property or sell, try crack cocaine and have indiscriminate sex with multiple partners, it is a choice. You may or may not like the consequences. The real lesson is of course to become aware that choices and consequences are directly related to each other. To keep putting your hand on a hot stove burner does not mean the blankety blank stove is at fault. It is a belief system failure that fails to recognize ones own creation. Be it personal or corporate.

Please do not say a "leased pc of equipment" caused all this trouble, it ain't so. To continue any program or path that continues to "not work" and think that "as if by magic it will work" is nothing short of insane. As individuals, especially when we were younger we may have resembled this remark. Every once in a while you may need to do a reality check and see if your grandiose plans don't need tweaking or even scrapping. I learned from women that it is ok to change your mind when needed. Won't go into this any further it could get expensive. Oh I guess it has already and will continue too by the sounds of it.

Regards, John.


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 Post subject: Re: Saginaw Timber Co. No. 2 Boiler Lift and Installation
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:58 pm 

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Sorry, John, but I am pretty sure that Jeff thinks he is the winner here. After all he has finally achieved what he has been working toward for the last 15 years, namely giving Skip the boot. All at the expense of making Mid-Continent look pretty darned foolish.
John Risley wrote:
Dave gets it! It doesn't matter if you like what you have created or even if one takes responsibility for his own creations. You get the results regardless. There is no judgment in this and even if there was it would not change anything. The decision was made to continue this to the end result and the end result is what it is. We have multiple winners, just not an abundance of happy people.

We the membership do not have to like it, the owner does not have to like it, the BOD do not have to like it. Whether you as an individual choose marriage, buy a property or sell, try crack cocaine and have indiscriminate sex with multiple partners, it is a choice. You may or may not like the consequences. The real lesson is of course to become aware that choices and consequences are directly related to each other. To keep putting your hand on a hot stove burner does not mean the blankety blank stove is at fault. It is a belief system failure that fails to recognize ones own creation. Be it personal or corporate.

Please do not say a "leased pc of equipment" caused all this trouble, it ain't so. To continue any program or path that continues to "not work" and think that "as if by magic it will work" is nothing short of insane. As individuals, especially when we were younger we may have resembled this remark. Every once in a while you may need to do a reality check and see if your grandiose plans don't need tweaking or even scrapping. I learned from women that it is ok to change your mind when needed. Won't go into this any further it could get expensive. Oh I guess it has already and will continue too by the sounds of it.

Regards, John.


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