I thought it was preserved...

NH0401 · **Posted:** Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:14 pm

Former Alco Plant Switcher S-1 #5 (painted and lettered as such) , which I believed was 'preserved', is apparently being offered for sale by a dealer.

Just goes to show ya.

Hmmmm...

Dave

mikefrommontana · **Posted:** Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:25 pm

Ummm, #5 of which railroad? Where? Is it a private owner or a bonafide museum? Oh, and how much do they want for it (in case somebody has longer term preservation plans for it?

Michael Seitz
Missoula MT

derail · **Joined:** Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:45 pm **Posts:** 142

The initial post is almost confused me for a second, "former Alco' S1" made me wonder if it had been rebuilt into something other than an Alco.

I assume he meant one of the Alcos that was used by the Upper Hudson River Railroad in New York, the line now operated as the Saratoga and North Creek Railroad owned by Iowa Pacific Holdings. When I visited the line I was told that former UHRR equipment was bought by the S&NC.

As far as being previously preserved, it depends on how one views the term, locomotives owned by a for profit entity and not a museum are typically not considered preserved.

NH0401 · **Posted:** Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:38 pm

I fixed my post. On re-reading, it wasn't clear to me either.

AFAIK, the 5 was owned by a private party or parties. It has been off S&NC rails for a while.

Just throwing a 'nugget' out for future consideration by others.

Dave

PaulWWoodring · **Posted:** Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:48 pm

Even if you think an item is "preserved" in a museum, it can still be deaccessed.

Kuyahoora Valley · **Posted:** Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:04 pm

#5 was purchased by Iowa Pacific (S&NC) from UHRR and S2 821 was also purchased from its previous owners. Last known location was North Creek NY...if it was moved out of North Creek it would have been reported by now so it is probably still there. 821 was repainted in D&H switcher black and has been recently used.

NH0401 · **Posted:** Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:07 pm

Confirmed that it was purchased by S&NC. There appears to be a little bit of mystery as to 'being for sale.'

Dave

robertjohndavis · **Joined:** Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:10 am **Posts:** 2499

She's been quite a boomer the past 20 years. She's certainly a significant piece in terms of provenance even if she's just a regular S-1. Given that the ALCO plant itself has been on a 50+ year slow disappearing act she may become one of the last tangible elects of a workaday locomotive building in Schenectady.

Rob

wm303 · **Posted:** Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:45 pm

I read this evening on another forum that it was offered for sale to Delaware-Lackawanna by Larry's Truck.

thebigham · **Joined:** Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:46 pm **Posts:** 261

Delaware-Lackawanna has said many times that they have all the Alcos they need and can handle.

I thought it was preserved...

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