It is currently Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:59 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 67 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Baldwin S12 for sale
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:55 pm 

Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:25 pm
Posts: 348
The federal government's website for disposing of surplus property is offering USAF 1864, ex-USN 65-00374, a Baldwin S12 built in December 1952, as well as USAF 1606, a GE 80-ton centercab built in February 1953. They are at Hill AFB near Ogden, UT, which closed its base railway in May 2011. Here's the notice:

http://www.govliquidation.com/events?cm ... ldwin-S-12

I saw both locomotives during a visit in November 1999 and they were fully operational.

Also available from the same website are ex-VRE double-decker cars planned for the Army's troop train shuttle that was supposed to go from Fort Lee near Petersburg, VA, to a point near Fort A. P. Hill, not far from Fredericksburg, VA, a program that never got off the ground. Most likely the cars, languishing on Fort Lee's warehouse spur, will go to scrap. Here's the link:

http://www.govliquidation.com/events?cm ... -Rail-Cars

At last word the three ex-VRE locomotives were at the Army rail shop at Hill AFB but were still in VRE colors and had not been renumbered or repainted for Army service, nor reassigned to any particular Army post.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Baldwin S12 for sale
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:28 pm 

Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:44 am
Posts: 740
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
I saw one of the ex-VRE locomotives at Hill AFB this morning. It's visible from the freeway. Still in full VRE colors with small U.S. Army lettering.

_________________
David Wilkinson
Salt Lake City, UT


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Baldwin S12 for sale
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:52 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:42 am
Posts: 2041
Location: Seattle, WA - Land of Coffee
Tim Moriarty wrote:
Also available from the same website are ex-VRE double-decker cars planned for the Army's troop train shuttle.


These would be ex-VRE, exx-Metra, nee-C&NW gallery cars built by P-S.

The website lists four cars for sale: USAX #402, #404, #405, and #407. Were any additional cars acquired for the planned shuttle??

_________________
Ted Brumberg


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Baldwin S12 for sale
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:34 pm 

Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:25 pm
Posts: 348
This article from October 25, 2011 stated the Army bought 3 locomotives and 10 cars.

http://progress-index.com/news/rail-car ... -1.1223420

I suspect they're not trying to sell them all at once, but instead are unloading them in small lots.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Baldwin S12 for sale
PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:29 am 
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:42 am
Posts: 2041
Location: Seattle, WA - Land of Coffee
Thanks, Tim, for the info and link!

_________________
Ted Brumberg


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Baldwin S12 for sale
PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:20 pm 

Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:20 pm
Posts: 217
Notice that the opening bid is $25.00 YES! $25.00 !!!


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Baldwin S12 for sale
PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:52 pm 

Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:29 am
Posts: 316
Two problems with the Baldwin switcher, 1: plain journals,not rollers. 2: looks like they want it removed In about a week after winning the auction. You would have to get it moved somehow, very quickly, plus they won't let the buyer scrap it on site....so, they probably won't allow much work to be done on it on site either. Same is probably true for the other loco and the commuter cars.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Baldwin S12 for sale
PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:40 pm 

Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:17 pm
Posts: 260
There is no first bid yet, as the bidding has not started yet.

The $25.00 posted as a first bid is standard for the company that handles the surplus sales for the government.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Baldwin S12 for sale
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:57 pm 

Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:25 pm
Posts: 348
At the time the Army acquired the cars from the VRE, a VRE employee sent to me an email with this information: “The following are the locomotives and cars going to the Army: V432, V434, V435, V436, V438, V439, V447, V455, V456, V457, V21, V22, and V24.”

The car numbers don't correspond to those in the recent advertisement (402, 404, 405, and 407), so it's possible the Army assigned its own new numbers to the cars while they sat at Fort Lee.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Baldwin S12 for sale
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:12 pm 

Joined: Thu May 24, 2012 1:37 pm
Posts: 2197
Fascinating that it has a "Western Electric" main generator and traction motors. I had no idea that Baldwin had developed a Strowger-switch electric MU control!

_________________
R.M.Ellsworth


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Baldwin S12 for sale
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:21 pm 

Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:25 pm
Posts: 348
Apparently those ex-VRE locomotives in Army hands at Hill AFB, UT, have received new numbers after all. Thanks to Ken Ardinger for providing this information:

US Army 4670 ex VRE V21 ex KCS 759 ex 4759 ex CR 3187 ex PC 3187
US Army 4671 ex VRE V22 ex CSXT 6513 ex B&O 3697
US Army 4672 ex VRE V24 ex NJDOT 1768 ex CSXT 6583 ex B&O 4008


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Baldwin S12 for sale
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:10 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:42 am
Posts: 2041
Location: Seattle, WA - Land of Coffee
Tim Moriarty wrote:
Also available from the same website are ex-VRE double-decker cars planned for the Army's troop train shuttle.
Rainier Rails wrote:
These would be ex-VRE, exx-Metra, nee-C&NW gallery cars built by P-S.

The website lists four cars for sale: USAX #402, #404, #405, and #407. Were any additional cars acquired for the planned shuttle??
Tim Moriarty wrote:
At the time the Army acquired the cars from the VRE, a VRE employee sent to me an email with this information: “The following are the locomotives and cars going to the Army: V432, V434, V435, V436, V438, V439, V447, V455, V456, V457, V21, V22, and V24.”

The car numbers don't correspond to those in the recent advertisement (402, 404, 405, and 407), so it's possible the Army assigned its own new numbers to the cars while they sat at Fort Lee.
Tim Moriarty wrote:
Apparently those ex-VRE locomotives in Army hands at Hill AFB, UT, have received new numbers after all. Thanks to Ken Ardinger for providing this information:

US Army 4670 ex VRE V21 ex KCS 759 ex 4759 ex CR 3187 ex PC 3187
US Army 4671 ex VRE V22 ex CSXT 6513 ex B&O 3697
US Army 4672 ex VRE V24 ex NJDOT 1768 ex CSXT 6583 ex B&O 4008


Thanks, Tim, for the info!

_________________
Ted Brumberg


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Baldwin S12 for sale
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:55 pm 

Joined: Sat Aug 28, 2004 3:25 am
Posts: 1025
I get the impression that it's "$25.00 as is, where is, and get it the heck out of here."

_________________
Bob Davis
Southern California


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Baldwin S12 for sale
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:53 pm 

Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:32 pm
Posts: 10
The engine has already been sold to a vendor. The Oklahoma Railway Museum contacted about purchase a loading on flat for movement, however we were told on January 26, 2014 that they were already sold. Drake Rice, Secretary ORM


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Baldwin S12 for sale
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:45 am 

Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:25 pm
Posts: 348
Thanks for the update. It'll be interesting to find out who the successful bidder was and where the locomotives go.


Offline
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 67 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


 Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], QJdriver and 42 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: