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Author:  Rainier Rails [ Wed May 07, 2014 8:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UP Pacific Series 10-6 Sleepers
Thanks, Bradley, for the picture of Pacific Slope!

Not muddied at all!

Does anyone know who acquired the Pacific Slope from MRLX??

Amtrak converted both Pacific and Pine series 10-6 sleepers to dormitories, including Pacific Slope, but the Pine Cavern was not among those converted.

AT&SF #1622 Pine Cavern to Amtrak #2713 to HEP #2984 stored in 1995. Sold at unknown date to Wisconsin & Southern #2984 and renamed Notre Dame.

So it would seem that when the Pine Cavern was retired, the name plates were removed and later applied to the Pacific Slope when that car was converted to a dormitory!
Author:  Rainier Rails [ Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: UP Pacific Series 10-6 Sleepers
Rainier Rails wrote:
Pacific Spray to #1442 (1970) to Amtrak #2635 to HEP #2888 (1980). Retired and sold in 1995 to Monad. Current status unknown.


Currently listed for sale on Sterling Rail as MREX #2888:

http://www.sterlingrail.com/classifieds/classified.php?id=6250
Author:  MRLX1020 [ Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: UP Pacific Series 10-6 Sleepers
Pacific Slope was never owned by Mid America/MRLX - the buyer arranged to use our reporting marks when the car was purchased from Amtrak back in 2006. The car is now owned by a party in Texas as I understand it.

MRLX 1020

Rainier Rails wrote:
Thanks, Bradley, for the picture of Pacific Slope!

Not muddied at all!

Does anyone know who acquired the Pacific Slope from MRLX??

Amtrak converted both Pacific and Pine series 10-6 sleepers to dormitories, including Pacific Slope, but the Pine Cavern was not among those converted.

AT&SF #1622 Pine Cavern to Amtrak #2713 to HEP #2984 stored in 1995. Sold at unknown date to Wisconsin & Southern #2984 and renamed Notre Dame.

So it would seem that when the Pine Cavern was retired, the name plates were removed and later applied to the Pacific Slope when that car was converted to a dormitory!
Author:  Rainier Rails [ Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UP Pacific Series 10-6 Sleepers
Thanks, MRLX1020, for the info on Pacific Slope!
Author:  wilkinsd [ Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UP Pacific Series 10-6 Sleepers
Rainer Rails,

All of this listmaking and tracking is very impressive. Just curious, do you have an "end game" like an online databse planned with this information?

David
Author:  Rainier Rails [ Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UP Pacific Series 10-6 Sleepers
wilkinsd wrote:
Just curious, do you have an "end game" like an online databse planned with this information?


David--

I'm still considering the different options in terms of collating the data and making it available. The basic advantage of an online format being the ability to update and correct said database on a regular basis.
Author:  PLATFORMCAR [ Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UP Pacific Series 10-6 Sleepers
Perhaps someone can answer a Pacific series question...

I attach a photograph of Pacific Beauty... taken a few years ago in Madison Il....

I don't recall ever seeing a Pacific series car ( let alone Pacific Beauty ) with this God Bless America graphics on the side...

If you look at the picture and the way the graphic has aged, it looks like it could have run in Amtrak revenue service this way....

Does anyone know when or why this graphic was applied.. and for that matter, did it ever run in Amtrak revenue service with this on its side... and was it ever applied to another car...?

thanks


Dean Levin

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Author:  Rainier Rails [ Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UP Pacific Series 10-6 Sleepers
Interesting photo, Dean!

Did some looking via Jerry's site for photos of the Pacific Beauty in Amtrak service.

August 1995: http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3563163 (Rick Morgan photo)

Linked photo shows the bedroom side of the car (Dean's photo is of the hallway side), no sign of said lettering, which I noticed is located where "Amtrak" is usually placed.

Also, I noticed a slight difference in how the blue and red have weathered/faded, it appears that when the "God Bless America" lettering was added, that the entirety of those sections of the blue and red bands were repainted.

My guess, someone applied the lettering after acquiring the Pacific Beauty from Amtrak, which is listed as sold in 2001.

I had noted the Pacific Beauty as acquired by the Friends of the 261 (NSRX)--can anyone confirm this?

The Pacific Beauty is now owned by Canadian Northern RY LLC as CNRX #2880 (not #2660 as previously reported) and used on Loram rail grinding trains.
Author:  PLATFORMCAR [ Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UP Pacific Series 10-6 Sleepers
thanks Rainier..

here is a picture of Pacific Forum... taken at the same time in Madison Il.



Dean Levin

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Author:  wilkinsd [ Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UP Pacific Series 10-6 Sleepers
What's the car in front of the Pacific Beauty? Looks like a Budd car with the sides removed.
Author:  Rainier Rails [ Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UP Pacific Series 10-6 Sleepers
wilkinsd wrote:
What's the car in front of the Pacific Beauty? Looks like a Budd car with the sides removed.


That looks to be the shell of NYC 5DB sleeper 25 seat buffet lounge observation #10562 Fall Brook (Budd, Lot #9664-023, Plan #9506, 1949, low windows) sold in 1959 to CP and renamed Eastview sold in 1969 to United Railroad Supply (Montreal) later to private ownership #800057 Monterey, then Casablanca Fan #800057 City of Pasadena, then to ANSCO Colorado, painted in D&RGW Aspen Gold. Sold to Sokolski Zephyr, then to Les Kasten, burned while stored.

Thread on the Fall Brook from September 2011: http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32055

Dean Levin posted several photos of the Fall Brook on the second page of the linked thread.
Author:  bory2502 [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: UP Pacific Series 10-6 Sleepers
Pacific View was directly purchased by myself. MRLX never owned the car. I had arranged to use the MRLX reporting marks for the move out of Beechgrove. I was awarded the car by Amtrak in the last week of August of 2003 if I remember correctly.



Rainier Rails wrote:

Pacific View to #1447 (1969) to Amtrak #2640 to HEP #2940 (1978) reconfigured to crew dormitory-lounge #2502 (1997). Retired and sold in 2003 to MRLX and acquired (when??) by Chris Edwards-Batavia & Ohio Railway Services.
Author:  Rainier Rails [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: UP Pacific Series 10-6 Sleepers
Thanks, Chris, for the info on Pacific View!
Author:  Rainier Rails [ Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: UP Pacific Series 10-6 Sleepers
Rainier Rails wrote:
Pacific Rest to #1435 (1969) to Amtrak #2628 to HEP #2894 (1980). Retired in 1995. Current status unknown.


VistaDome_Adventurer wrote:
Pacific Rest stripped down to shell by owner for parts and the shell was possibly sold to Iowa Pacific

Hubert


Pacific Rest was acquired by Iowa Pacific from Dave Varilek and departed Fremont, NE, on the morning of Thursday, August 21st, for Alamosa, as posted by "wpjones" on Trainorders:

Thread from 8/20: http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?4,3499937

Thread from 8/21: http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?4,3500802

Sources:

1. "Streamliner Cars Volume Two: The Budd Company" by W. David Randall (RPC Publications, 1981)

2. Tom Madden's Pullman Project CCR database: http://pullmanproject.com/Database.htm

3. Don Strack's UP passenger car roster pages:

___3a. Main page: http://utahrails.net/pass/pass-index.php

___3b. Pacific-series sleepers: http://utahrails.net/pass/named-lightweight-sleepers.php#sleeper-pacific-bay

4. Mike Palmieri's Amtrak rosters

5. "Amtrak by the Numbers" by David C. Warner and Elbert Simon (White River Productions, 2011)

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Additions and corrections are welcome. Thanks in advance.
Author:  Rainier Rails [ Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: UP Pacific Series 10-6 Sleepers
Rainier Rails wrote:
Pacific Waves to #1449 (1970) to Amtrak #2642 to HEP #2432 (1980). Stored in 2001 and later sold (when??) to ITAX. Current status unknown.
VistaDome_Adventurer wrote:
I currently own "Pacific Waves" and store it in Northern California. The "Pacific Waves" was the last "Pacific" series delivered by Budd and interestingly was the last "Pacific" in revenue service between origin city Chicago and end point Los Angeles on the last "City of Los Angeles".


Pacific Waves is currently listed for sale on Ozark Mountain Railcar's website. The listing was posted on June 3rd of this year: http://www.ozarkmountainrailcar.com/detail.asp?id=1866&n=Pacific-Waves-NEW
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