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 Post subject: Re: Surviving AT&SF Lightweight Cars
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 10:54 am 

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Former ATSF Budd bagger 3450 is now on Cuyahoga Valley in use as a bike car.

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Was at Amtrak Beech Grove in 2002 stored, sold to CVSR in 2003 by Mid America.


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 Post subject: Re: Surviving AT&SF Lightweight Cars
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Thanks, MRLX1020, for the info!

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60' RPO #96 (Budd, Lot #9607-135, 1954) sold in 1968 to Mantisa Equipment Co. and converted to welding car later (when??) went to Holland Company as FWX #101. Current status unknown.

Hi-Level 72 seat chair #716 (Budd, Lot #9670-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9956 to HEP #39956 (1981) retired and sold in 2003 to Philip Sheridan-IFE Leasing, later (when??) to Bucol & Associates, later (when??) to Railway Service Contractors Inc. as MJRX #39956 and stored at Granite City.

Hi-Level 72 seat chair #729 (Budd, Lot #9670-320, 1964) to Amtrak #9929 to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39929 (1981) retired and sold in 2003 to Bucol & Associates, later (when??) to Railway Service Contractors Inc. as MJRX #39929 and stored at Granite City.

28 seat club lounge-barber shop-shower-dormitory #1392 (Budd, Lot #9629-001, 1946) sold in 1969 to Speno and converted to rail detector car, later (when??) to CNY Dinner Train (is this the New York Dining Car Association in Warners, NY?), later (when??) to J.J. Hagan, later (when??) to MRLX #1392 and stored at Granite City

36 seat diner #1491 (Budd, Lot #96915, 1942) to Amtrak #8036 retired and sold in 1981 to Alaska RR #4836 sold in 1989 to Denver Railcar and named Supper Chief, later (when??) to ITAX, sold (when??) to Sunview Rail, traded in 2006 to private owner as CBRX #1491 (Charles City, IA)

36 seat diner #1492 (Budd, Lot #96915, 1942) to Amtrak #8037 retired and sold in 1981 to Midwest Travel Service and named Soonerland II (Yukon, OK) later (when??) to Oklahoma RY Museum as OKRX #1492 and renamed OCU Star Express (Oklahoma City)

36 seat diner #1494 (Budd, Lot #96915, 1942) to Amtrak #8039 retired and sold in 1981 to unknown part, later (when??) to Broadway Dinner Train, later (when??) to Randolph Petroleum Company as RANX #1494 and named Hummingbird and leased to Great Lakes Central later (when??) to Ray Kammer and leased to GLC.

52 seat chair #3107 (Budd, Lot #999B, 1938) to PC 100 seat commuter coach #2415 (1969) to NJT #2415 sold (when??) to Wyoming & Colorado as WYCO #3107, later (when??) to Verde Canyon RR and stored in Clarkdale with #3087 Laramie

52 seat chair #3145 (Budd, Lot #96908, 1941) to PC 86 seat commuter coach #2429 (1970) to NJT #2429 sold in 1989 to Orrville RR Historical Society later (when??) to Midwest Railway Preservation Society (Cleveland) sold in 2006 to Rick and Mark Bochert for Erie Station Grille (Tallmadge, OH)

Baggage-express-messenger #3666 (AC&F, Lot #04-4269, 1955) to Amtrak #1154 to HEP #1268 (1978) stored in 2004 was later (when??) sold to the Massachusetts Call Volunteer Firefighter's Assocation as MCVX #3666, which is now the Firefighters Education & Training Foundation (West Springfield, MA)

Baggage-express-messenger #3677 (AC&F, Lot #04-4269, 1955) to Amtrak #1165 to HEP #1266 (1978) wrecked in 1-1992 and sold in 1993 to TCRY Museum as TCRX #1266 (Nashville)

Baggage (end doors) #3997 (P-S, Lots #7004 & #7007, 1960) to Amtrak #1096 to MofW #17072 (when??) sold (when??) to New Hope & Ivyland and modified to open air car as NHIR #1096

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 Post subject: Re: Surviving AT&SF Lightweight Cars
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Some Further Corrections:

1. Baggage-express-messenger #3510 (Budd, Lot #9601-135, 1953) to Amtrak #1027 was wrecked in 1978.

2. Baggage-express-messenger #3514 (Budd, Lot #9601-135, 1953) to Amtrak #1030 to HEP #1235 in 1977. Active.

3. Baggage-express-messenger #3536 (Budd, Lot #9601-135, 1953) to Amtrak #1050 to HEP #1234 in 1977. Active.

4. Baggage-express-messenger #3539 (Budd, Lot #9601-135, 1953) to Amtrak #1053 to HEP #1233 in 1977. Wrecked on 7-6-1984 on #60 Montrealer at Williston, VT.

5. Baggage-express #3541 (Budd, Lot #9601-209, 1957) to Amtrak #1055 to HEP #1230 in 1977. Active.

6. Baggage-express #3542 (Budd, Lot #9601-209, 1957) to Amtrak #1056 to HEP #1231 in 1977. Active.

7. Baggage-express #3545 (Budd, Lot #9601-209, 1957) to Amtrak #1059 to HEP #1236 in 1977. Stored in 2003. Current status unknown.

8. Baggage-express #3546 (Budd, Lot #9601-209, 1957) to Amtrak #1060 to HEP #1232 in 1977. Active.

9. Baggage #3939 (P-S, Lot #7027, Plan #53447, 1966) to Amtrak #1080 to MofW #17075. Current status unknown.

10. Baggage (end doors) #3993 (P-S, Lots #7004 & #7007, Plan #W53316, 1960) to Amtrak #1092 to MofW #16323. Current status unknown.

11. Baggage (end doors) #3999 (P-S, Lots #7004 & #7007, Plan #W53316, 1960) to Amtrak #1098 stored in 1981 and sold in 1983 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

12. Baggage-express-messenger #3658 (Budd, Lot #9605-135, 1953) to Amtrak #1108 to HEP #1173 in 1982. Derailed on 12-20-1998 on #21 Texas Eagle at Arlington, TX, and subsequently stored. Sold in 2003 to Algoma Central #312.

13. Baggage-express-messenger #3662 (AC&F, Lot #04-4269, 1955) to Amtrak #1151 to HEP #1257 in 1977. Wrecked on 6-24-2011 on #5 California Zephyr at Ocala, NV, and subsequently stored. Scrapped?? Current status unknown.

14. Baggage-express-messenger #3680 (AC&F, Lot #04-4269, 1955) to Amtrak #1167 to HEP #1256 in 1977. Wrecked in 11-1999 at Cumberland, MD, and subsequently stored. Sold in 2003 to Mid America and named Taos (#800863).

15. Baggage-24 bunk dormitory #1385 San Pascal (Budd, Lot #978, 1937/59) to Amtrak #1503 retired in 1981 and sold to unknown party. Current status unknown.

16. Baggage-express-messenger #3668 (AC&F, Lot #04-4269, 1955) to Amtrak #1156 renumbered in 1979 to #1036 planned conversion to HEP #1140 was cancelled, car retired in 1981. Current status unknown.

17. 48 seat chair #2821 (Budd, Lot #9613-135, 1953) to Amtrak #4815 to HEP #4732 to baggage-express #1704 wrecked in 2005 and subsequently retired. Current status unknown.

18. 48 seat chair #2820 (Budd, Lot #9613-135, 1953) to Amtrak #4814 to HEP #4704 planned conversion to baggage-express #1709 was cancelled. HEP 40 seat ADA coach #4016 was converted to #1709 instead (Budd, Lot #9613-040, 1950, SP 44 seat chair #2365 [1st] to T&NO #438 to SP #2226 to Amtrak #4413 to HEP #4016). #4704 leased to GE, reconfigured to a research & test car. Lease ended in 2002. Current status unknown.

19. 11DB sleeper #903 Indian Drum (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #6007A, 1947/64) to Amtrak #2211 was retired in 1981 and sold in 1982 to Black-Wong Railcar Leasing and scrapped at Pacific Recycling, Point Hueneme, CA, in 1985.

20. 11DB sleeper #904 Indian Falls (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #6007A, 1947/64) to Amtrak #2212 was retired in 1979. Current status unknown.

21. 11DB sleeper #901 Indian Arrow (1st) (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #6007A, 1947/64) to Indian Lake (2nd) to Amtrak #2214 sold (when??) to unknown party. Current status unknown.

22. 11DB sleeper #907 Indian Maid (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #6007A, 1947/64) to Amtrak #2215 retired in 1981 and sold to unknown party. Current status unknown.

23. 11DB sleeper #909 Indian Pony (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #6007A, 1947/64) to Amtrak #2217 retired in 1981 and sold to unknown party. Current status unknown.

24. 11DB sleeper #910 Indian Scout (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #6007A, 1947/64) to Amtrak #2218 was retired and sold in 1977 to Ringling Brothers #59. Current status unknown.

25. 11DB sleeper #912 Indian Squaw (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #6007A, 1947/64) to Amtrak #2220 was wrecked in 1979.

26. 4DB-4C-2DR sleeper #1813 Regal Dome (AC&F, Lot #3358, Plan #9011, 1950) to Amtrak #2350 sold in 1982 to KCS. Current status unknown.

27. 4DB-4C-2DR sleeper #1821 Regal Inn (AC&F, Lot #3358, Plan #9011, 1950) to Amtrak #2351 sold in 1982 to Memphis Transportation Museum (MTM) #2351 (#800261) (Collierville, TN). Current status unknown.

28. 4DB-4C-2DR sleeper #1822 Regal Isle (AC&F, Lot #3358, Plan #9011, 1950) to Amtrak #2352 sold in 1982 to KCS, later (when??) to Jon Clark.

29. 4DB-4C-2DR sleeper #1806 Regal City (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #4144, 1948) to Amtrak #2361 sold in 1982 to Memphis Transportation Museum (MTM) #2361 and renamed Winston Hoover (#800331) (Collierville, TN). Current status unknown.

30. 4DB-4C-2DR sleeper #1809 Regal Creek (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #4144, 1948) to Amtrak #2362 retired and sold in 1981 to private ownership, reconfigured to 5MB-1DB #800226, and operated in charter service on Tex-Mex RR, later (when??) to SCD #755. Current status unknown.

31. 4DB-4C-2DR sleeper #1818 Regal Hill (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #4144, 1947) to Amtrak #2365 sold in 1982 to Memphis Transportation Museum (MTM) #2365 and renamed Rose Orgel (#800262) (Collierville, TN). Current status unknown.

32. 4DB-4C-2DR sleeper #1829 Regal River (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #4144, 1947) to Amtrak #2367 sold in 1982 to Memphis Transportation Museum (MTM) #2367 and renamed Joseph S. Signaigo (#800200) (Collierville, TN). Current status unknown.

33. 4DB-4C-2DR sleeper #1832 Regal Stream (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #4144, 1947) to Amtrak #2369 retired in 1981 and sold to private ownership #800264, later (when??) to SCD #752. Did this car operate in charter service on the Tex-Mex RR with Regal Creek?? Current status unknown.

34. 4DB-4C-2DR sleeper #1835 Regal Vale (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #4144, 1948) to Amtrak #2371 sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

35. 10RM-3DB-2C sleeper #208 Blue Grass (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #4145, 1947) to Amtrak #2500 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

36. 10RM-3DB-2C sleeper #213 Blue Island (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #4145, 1947) to Amtrak #2502 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

37. 10RM-3DB-2C sleeper #214 Blue Lake (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #4145, 1947) to Amtrak #2503 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

38. 10RM-3DB-2C sleeper #217 Blue Mott (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #4145, 1948) to Amtrak #2505. Sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

39. 10RM-3DB-2C sleeper #219 Blue Pond (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #4145, 1948) to Amtrak #2506 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

40. 10RM-3DB-2C sleeper #220 Blue Ridge (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #4145, 1947) to Amtrak #2507 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

41. 10RM-3DB-2C sleeper #222 Blue Water (P-S, Lot #6757, Plan #4145, 1947) to Amtrak #2508. Sold in 1981 to Fillmore & Western.

42. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1617 Pine Arroyo (Budd, Lot #9660-038, Plan #9521, 1949) to Amtrak #2710 to HEP #2983 in 1977 to crew dormitory-lounge #2515 in 1998 stored in 2007. Current status unknown.

43. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1618 Pine Beach (Budd, Lot #9660-038, Plan #9521, 1949) to Amtrak #2711 to HEP #2991 and renamed Beatrice V. MacDonald in 1977 to crew dormitory-lounge #2501 in 1997 stored in 2007. Current status unknown.

44. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1621 Pine Brook (Budd, Lot #9660-038, Plan #9521, 1949) to Amtrak #2712 to HEP #2995 in 1977 to crew dormitory-lounge #2500 in 1997 stored in 2006. Current status unknown.

45. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1622 Pine Cavern (Budd, Lot #9660-038, Plan #9521, 1949) to Amtrak #2713 to HEP #2984 in 1977. Stored in 1995 and sold (when??) to WSOR and renamed Notre Dame.

46. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1625 Pine Crest (Budd, Lot #9660-038, Plan #9521, 1950) to Amtrak #2715 to HEP #2981 in 1977. Retired and sold in 1984 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

47. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1626 Pine Dale (Budd, Lot #9660-038, Plan #9521, 1950) to Amtrak #2716 to HEP #2988 in 1977. Retired in 1995. Current status unknown.

48. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1627 Pine Fern (Budd, Lot #9660-038, Plan #9521, 1950) to Amtrak #2717 to HEP #2989 in 1977 to crew dormitory-lounge #2514 in 1998 stored in 2006. Current status unknown.

49. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1630 Pine Gorge (Budd, Lot #9660-038, Plan #9521, 1950) to Amtrak #2720 to HEP #2993 in 1977 to crew dormitory-lounge #2519 in 1998 stored in 2006. Current status unknown.

50. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1631 Pine Grove (Budd, Lot #9660-038, Plan #9521, 1950) to Amtrak #2721 to HEP #2990 in 1977. Retired and sold in 1995 to Jim Stephenson (Houston).

51. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1634 Pine King (Budd, Lot #9660-038, Plan #9521, 1950) to Amtrak #2723 to HEP #2985 in 1977 to crew dormitory-lounge #2512 in 1998 stored in 2007. Current status unknown.

52. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1636 Pine Lodge (Budd, Lot #9660-038, Plan #9521, 1950) to Amtrak #2725 to HEP #2994 in 1977 to crew dormitory-lounge #2523 in 1999 stored in 2007. Current status unknown.

53. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1637 Pine Mesa (Budd, Lot #9660-038, Plan #9521, 1950) to Amtrak #2726 to HEP #2986 in 1977. Retired and sold in 1995 to Temple RR & Heritage Museum (Temple, TX).

54. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1639 Pine Peak (Budd, Lot #9660-038, Plan #9521, 1950) to Amtrak #2728 to HEP #2992 in 1977 to crew dormitory-lounge #2506 in 1997 stored in 2007. Current status unknown.

55. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1640 Pine Rapids (Budd, Lot #9660-038, Plan #9521, 1950) to Amtrak #2729 to HEP #2982 in 1977 to crew dormitory-lounge #2518 in 1998 stored in 2006. Current status unknown.

56. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1642 Pine Ring (Budd, Lot #9660-038, Plan #9521, 1950) to Amtrak #2731 to HEP #2997 in 1977. Retired and sold in 1995 to PAX Rail, sold in 2005 to Museum of the American RR (Frisco, TX).

56. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1643 Pine Shore (Budd, Lot #9660-038, Plan #9521, 1950) to Amtrak #2732 to HEP #2987 in 1977 retired in 1985. Current status unknown.

57. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1601 Palm Arch (AC&F, Lot #3359, Plan #9014, 1951) to Amtrak #2750 sold in 1983 to unknown party. Current status unknown/

58. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1602 Palm Dome (AC&F, Lot #3359, Plan #9014, 1951) to Amtrak #2751 retired in 1981 and sold to unknown party. Current status unknown.

59. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1604 Palm Leaf (AC&F, Lot #3359, Plan #9014, 1951) to Amtrak #2753 sold in 1982 to private ownership #800237.

60. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1605 Palm Loch (AC&F, Lot #3359, Plan #9014, 1951) to Amtrak #2754 sold in 1983 to Winter's RR Services, stored on Buffalo Southern RR, burned in 2005, and subsequently scrapped in 2-2006.

61. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1606 Palm Lore (AC&F, Lot #3359, Plan #9014, 1951) to Amtrak #2755 sold in 1983 to SCD #747. Current status unknown.

62. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1608 Palm Star (AC&F, Lot #3359, Plan #9014, 1951) to Amtrak #2757 sold in 1983 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

63. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1609 Palm Stream (AC&F, Lot #3359, Plan #9014, 1951) to Amtrak #2758 sold in 1983 to SCD #748. Current status unknown.

64. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1610 Palm Summit (AC&F, Lot #3359, Plan #9014, 1951) to Amtrak #2759 sold in 1983 to SCD #749. Current status unknown.

65. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1611 Palm Top (AC&F, Lot #3359, Plan #9014, 1951) to Amtrak #2760 sold in 1982 to SCD #657. Current status unknown. In my notes, I had this car as being sold to Golden Arrow Tours, not SCD. Can anyone clarify??

66. 10RM-6DB sleeper #1612 Palm Tower (AC&F, Lot #3359, Plan #9014, 1951) to Amtrak #2761 sold in 1983 to SCD #750. Current status unknown.

67. 4DR-1DB sleeper lounge observation Vista Club (AC&F, Lot #3360, Plan #9013A, 1950/56) sold in 1968 to Newark Panhandle RR and renamed The Kokosing sold in 1974 to Amtrak #3270 (not applied) retired and sold in 1975 to D.J. Joseph.

68. Club lounge-news stand-nurse #1347 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7507, 1947) to Amtrak #3350 sold in 1980 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

69. Club lounge-news stand-nurse #1349 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7507, 1947) to Amtrak #3351 sold in 1982 to GGRM.

70. Club lounge-barber shop-shower-dormitory #1378 Concho (P-S, Lot #6600, Plan #7427, 1940) to Amtrak #3381 retired in 1981 and sold to private ownership #800394. Current status unknown.

71. Club lounge-barber shop-shower-dormitory #1391 (Budd, Lot #9629-001, 1946) to Amtrak #3382 sold in 1982 to private ownership #800223. Current status unknown.

72. Lounge-barber shop-shower-dormitory #1339 (P-S, Lot #6849, Plan #7623, 1950) to Amtrak #3390 sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

73. Lounge-barber shop-shower-dormitory #1340 (P-S, Lot #6849, Plan #7623, 1950) to Amtrak #3391 sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

74. Lounge-barber shop-shower-dormitory #1341 (P-S, Lot #6849, Plan #7623, 1950) to Amtrak #3392 sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

75. Lounge-barber shop-shower-dormitory #1342 (P-S, Lot #6849, Plan #7623, 1950) to Amtrak #3393 sold in 1982 to private owner in Luther, OK.

76. Lounge-barber shop-shower-dormitory #1343 (P-S, Lot #6849, Plan #7623, 1950) to Amtrak #3394 sold in 1982 to private ownership #800259 and named Red Rock, later (when??) to Austin Steam Train-Austin & Texas Central.

77. Lounge-barber shop-shower-dormitory #1344 (P-S, Lot #6849, Plan #7623, 1950) to Amtrak #3395 sold in 1982 to private ownership, donated in 1999 to Gulf Coast Chapter NRHS-Houston RR Museum.

Sources:

1. Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling Society passenger car roster pages: http://www.atsfrr.com/links/atsf/passenger.htm

2. Mike Palmieri's Amtrak rosters

3. Stan Garner's #800xxx-series PV list: http://www.movie-trains.com/pvlist.html

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#2869 to Amtrak #4472. Retired in 1979. Current status unknown.

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Thanks, Greg, for the info!

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Some Further Corrections:

78. 44 seat chair #2958 (Budd, Lot #996, 1938/47/62) to Amtrak #4460 retired in 1981 and sold to unknown party. Current status unknown.

79. 44 seat chair #2869 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4472 sold in 1981 to DeQuincy RR Museum (DeQuincy, LA).

80. 44 seat chair #2873 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4473 sold in 1982 to Salt Lake, Garfield & Western. Was this car owned by SLGW or by the Promontory Chapter?? Current status unknown.

81. 44 seat chair #2862 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4480 retired in 1981 and sold to unknown party. Current status unknown.

82. 44 seat chair #2863 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4481 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

83. 44 seat chair #2865 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4483 sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

84. 44 seat chair #2872 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4485 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

85. 44 seat chair #2874 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4486 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

86. 44 seat chair #2875 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4487 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

87. 44 seat chair #2876 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4488 sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

88. 44 seat chair #2879 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4490 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

89. 44 seat chair #2881 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4491 sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

90. 44 seat chair #2883 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4493 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

91. 44 seat chair #2884 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4494 sold in 1981 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

92. 44 seat chair #2886 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4495 wrecked (1980??) and sold in 1981 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

93. 44 seat chair #2887 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4496 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

94. 44 seat chair #2888 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4497 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

95. 44 seat chair #2892 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4498 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

96. 44 seat chair #2893 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4499 sold in 1982 to Salt Lake, Garfield & Western. Was this car owned by SLGW or by the Promontory Chapter?? Current status unknown.

97. 44 seat chair #2895 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4501 sold in 1981 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

98. 44 seat chair #2896 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4502 sold in 1983 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

99. 44 seat chair #2897 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4503 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

100. 44 seat chair #2898 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4504 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

101. 44 seat chair #2899 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4505 retired in 1981 and sold to unknown party. Current status unknown.

102. 44 seat chair #2900 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4506 sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

103. 44 seat chair #2901 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4507 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

104. 44 seat chair #2902 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4508 sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

105. 44 seat chair #2903 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4509 retired in 1981 and sold to unknown party. Current status unknown.

106. 44 seat chair #2904 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4510 retired in 1981 and sold to unknown party. Current status unknown.

107. 44 seat chair #2907 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4513 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

108. 44 seat chair #2908 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4514 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

109. 44 seat chair #2909 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4515 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

110. 44 seat chair #2910 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4516 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

111. 44 seat chair #2911 (P-S, Lot #6734, Plan #7503, 1947) to Amtrak #4517 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

112. 44 seat chair #2912 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4518 wrecked (1980??) and sold in 1981 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

113. 44 seat chair #2913 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4519 sold in 1983 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

114. 44 seat chair #2915 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4520 retired in 1981 and sold to unknown party. Current status unknown.

115. 44 seat chair #2917 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4522 sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

116. 44 seat chair #2919 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4523 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

117. 44 seat chair #2920 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4524 (not applied). Wrecked in 1975.

118. 44 seat chair #2921 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4525 sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

119. 44 seat chair #2922 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4526 sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

120. 44 seat chair #2923 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4527 wrecked in 1979.

121. 44 seat chair #2925 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4528 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

122. 44 seat chair #2926 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4529 sold in 1982 to Salt Lake, Garfield & Western. Was this car owned by SLGW or by the Promontory Chapter?? Current status unknown.

123. 44 seat chair #2927 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4530 sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

124. 44 seat chair #2929 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4532 sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

125. 44 seat chair #2930 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4533 retired in 1981 and sold to unknown party. Current status unknown.

126. 44 seat chair #2931 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4534 sold in 1982 to Heart of Dixie RR Museum (Calara, AL).

127. 44 seat chair #2932 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4535 sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

128. 44 seat chair #2935 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4538 (not applied). Scrapped in 1973.

129. 44 seat chair #2936 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4539 retired in 1977. Current status unknown.

130. 44 seat chair #2937 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4540 sold in 1983 to New Georgia RR (NGRX) #2937 sold in 1993 to Great Miami RR (FLSX) #2937. Stored (when??) on Southwest Pennsylvania RR at Scottdale, PA. Burned by vandals on 9-4-2011. Stored with New Georgia/Great Miami #1502, a Budd ex-AT&SF chair I have not been able to identify.

131. 44 seat chair #2939 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4542 sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

132. 44 seat chair #2941 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4544 sold in 1983 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

133. 44 seat chair #2942 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4545 sold in 1981 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

134. 44 seat chair #2943 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4546 sold in 1983 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

135. 44 seat chair #2944 (P-S, Lot #6842, Plan #7503A, 1950) to Amtrak #4547 sold in 1981 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

136. 48 seat chair #2816 (Budd, Lot #9613-135, 1953) to Amtrak #4810 to HEP #4712 (1980) to 88 seat Clocker coach #7625 (1983). Retired and sold in 1997 to Providence & Worcester #7625.

137. 48 seat chair #2817 (Budd, Lot #9613-135, 1953) to Amtrak #4811 to HEP #4707 (1980) to 88 seat Clocker coach #7621 (1982). Stored in 2003 and sold in 2007 to Algoma Central #5654.

138. 48 seat chair #2818 (Budd, Lot #9613-135, 1953) to Amtrak #4812 to HEP #4713 (1980) to 88 seat Clocker coach #7626 (1983). Retired and sold in 1997 to Providence & Worcester #7626 and named New York.

139. 48 seat chair #2821 (Budd, Lot #9613-135, 1953) to Amtrak #4815 to HEP #4732 (1980) retired and sold in 1995 to TCRY Museum (TCRX) #4732 (Nashville).

140. 48 seat chair #2824 (Budd, Lot #9613-135, 1953) to Amtrak #4818 to HEP #4706 (1980) to 88 seat Clocker coach #7620 (1982). Retired and sold in 2003 to Mid America and named Tolani (#800721).

141. 48 seat chair #2830 (Budd, Lot #9613-135, 1953) to Amtrak #4822 to HEP #4708 (1980) to 88 seat Clocker coach #7622 (1982). Stored in 2003 and sold in 2007 to Algoma Central #5655.

142. 48 seat chair #2831 (Budd, Lot #9613-135, 1953) to Amtrak #4823 to HEP #4733 (1980) to baggage-express #1704 (1995) wrecked in 2005.

143. 48 seat chair #2834 (Budd, Lot #9613-135, 1953) to Amtrak #4826 to HEP #4709 (1980) to 88 seat Clocker coach #7623 (1983). Stored in 2003 and later (when??) sold to Morristown & Erie #7623 later (when??) renumbered to #1001 and named Pine (#800851).

144. 48 seat chair #2835 (Budd, Lot #9613-135, 1953) to Amtrak #4827 to HEP #4714 (1980) to 88 seat Clocker coach #7627 (1983). Retired and sold in 1997 to Providence & Worcester #7627 and named Rhode Island.

145. 48 seat chair #2837 (Budd, Lot #9613-135, 1953) to Amtrak #4850 to HEP #4710 (1980) to 88 seat Clocker coach #7624 (1983). Stored in 2003 and sold in 2007 to Algoma Central #5656.

146. 48 seat chair #2840 (Budd, Lot #9613-135, 1953) to Amtrak #4852. Wrecked (1980??) and sold in 1981 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

147. 48 seat chair #2841 (Budd, Lot #9613-135, 1953) to Amtrak #4853 to HEP #4719 (1980). Retired and sold in 1995 to TCRY Museum (TCRX) #4719 (#800642) (Nashville).

148. 48 seat chair #2844 (Budd, Lot #9613-135, 1953) to Amtrak #4856 to HEP #4731 (1980) to 88 seat Clocker coach #7629 (1983). Retired and sold in 2004 to Morristown & Erie #7629, stored (when??) in Cedar Knolls, NJ.

149. 48 seat chair #2848 (Budd, Lot #9613-135, 1953) to Amtrak #4860 to HEP #4721 (1980) to 88 seat Clocker coach #7628 (1983). Retired and sold in 2003 to TCRY Museum (TCRX) #7628 (Nashville).

150. 4DR-1DB sleeper lounge observation Chuska (P-S, Lot #6532, Plan #4070C, 1938/54) to 48 seat chair #2814 (1960) to Amtrak #4886 sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

Sources:

1. Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling Society passenger car roster pages: http://www.atsfrr.com/links/atsf/passenger.htm

2. Mike Palmieri's Amtrak rosters

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Some Further Corrections:

151. 52 seat chair #3139 (Budd, Lot #96908, 1941) to Amtrak #5226 renumbered to #6034 in approximately 1975, seating was not increased. Retired in 1981 and sold to unknown party. Current status unknown.

152. 52 seat chair #3141 (Budd, Lot #96908, 1941) to Amtrak #5228 renumbered to #6036 in approximately 1975, seating was not increased. Retired in 1981 and sold to unknown party. Current status unknown.

153. 52 seat chair #3143 (Budd, Lot #96908, 1941) to Amtrak #5229 (not applied). Wrecked in 1973.

154. 52 seat chair #3153 (Budd, Lot #9613-001, 1946) to Amtrak #5230 renumbered to #6037 in approximately 1975, seating was not increased. Retired in 1981. Current status unknown.

155. 52 seat chair #3159 (Budd, Lot #9613-001, 1946) to Amtrak #5231 renumbered to #6038 in approximately 1975, seating was not increased. Retired and sold in 1981 to restaurant in Prescott, AZ, later stored. Cut up into sections by local scrap dealer.

156. 52 seat chair #3160 (Budd, Lot #9613-001, 1946) to Amtrak #5232 planned conversion in 1976 to 60 seat coach #6039 was cancelled, retired and sold in 1976 to Rail Service Industries (Mira Loma, CA), later (when??) to private owner. Sold in 2013 to Austin Steam Train-Austin & Texas Central RR.

157. 52 seat chair #3163 (Budd, Lot #9613-001, 1946) to Amtrak #5235 renumbered to #6042 in approximately 1976, seating was not increased. Retired in 1981 and sold in 1982 to Rail Service Industries, later (when??) to private owner. Sold in 2013 to Austin Steam Train-Austin & Texas Central RR. (I do not have concrete info that the #3163 was sold to Rail Service Industries, speculative at this point. Can anyone confirm this??)

158. 52 seat chair #3166 (Budd, Lot #9613-001, 1946) to Amtrak #5236 planned conversion in 1976 to 60 seat coach #6043 was cancelled, retired in 1977 and sold in 1981 to USAF-Vandenberg AFB for planned use as a hospitality office. Sold in 1990 to Jon Clark, resold in 1993 to Rail Preservation Incorporated (Scottsdale, AZ), reconfigured to club lounge and named Regal Phoenix. To Arizona RY Museum in 1996 (Chandler, AZ).

Sources:

1. Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling Society passenger car roster pages: http://www.atsfrr.com/links/atsf/passenger.htm

2. Mike Palmieri's Amtrak rosters

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159. 36 seat diner #1477 (Budd, Lot #976, 1937) to Amtrak #8030 (seating increased to 48) wrecked (1981?) and sold in 1981 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

160. 36 seat diner #1479 (Budd, Lot #976, 1937) to Amtrak #8031 (seating increased to 46) sold in 1983 to Utica & Mohawk Valley Chapter NRHS and located at Children's Museum, Utica, NY.

161. 36 seat diner #1481 (Budd, Lot #976, 1937) to Amtrak #8033 (seating increased to 48) retired in 1981 and sold to unknown party. Current status unknown.

162. 36 seat diner #1493 (Budd, Lot #96915, 1942) to Amtrak #8038 sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

163. 36 seat diner #1496 (Budd, Lot #96915, 1942) seating later increased to 46 to Amtrak #8041 (seating increased to 48) sold in 1982 to unknown party. Current status unknown.

164. 36 seat diner #602 (P-S, Lot #6851, Plan #7625, 1950) to Amtrak #8071 (seating increased to 48) retired in 1981 and sold to unknown party. Current status unknown.

165. 36 seat diner #603 (P-S, Lot #6851, Plan #7625, 1950) to Amtrak #8072 retired in 1981 and sold to unknown party. Current status unknown.

166. 36 seat diner #604 (P-S, Lot #6851, Plan #7625, 1950) to Amtrak #8073 wrecked in 1974, and subsequently scrapped in May 1975??.

167. 36 seat diner #606 (P-S, Lot #6851, Plan #7625, 1950) to Amtrak #8075 retired in 1981 and sold to unknown party. Current status unknown.

168. Baggage-dormitory #3480 (Budd, Lot #990, 1938/41/56) to Amtrak #9993 stored in 1981 and sold in 1985 to John Brigham and named Pegasus (#800248), later (when??) to Cotton Belt RHS-Arkansas RR Museum (Pine Bluff, AR).

169. Hi-Level 68 seat chair-transition #528 (Budd, Lot #9679-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9902 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39902 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Philip Sheridan-Ben Butterworth. Current status unknown.

170. Hi-Level 68 seat chair-transition #529 (Budd, Lot #9679-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9903 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39903 in 1979. Sold in 2003 to Dr. Plancey (Los Angeles), later (when??) to Bucol & Associates. Current status unknown.

171. Hi-Level 68 seat chair-transition #530 (Budd, Lot #9679-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9904 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39904 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Bucol & Associates. Current status unknown.

172. Hi-Level 68 seat chair-transition #536 (Budd, Lot #9679-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9910 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39910 in 1979. Wrecked on 7-7-1985 on #8 Empire Builder at Almira, WA, and subsequently stored. Sold in 1994 to A&M University for fire training and burned in 1-1994.

173. Hi-Level 68 seat chair-transition #537 (Budd, Lot #9679-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9911 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39911 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to AAR. Current status unknown.

174. Hi-Level 68 seat chair-transition #539 (Budd, Lot #9679-320, 1964) to Amtrak #9913 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39913 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Philip Sheridan-IFE Leasing, later (when??) to Bucol & Associates. Current status unknown.

175. Hi-Level 68 seat chair-transition #541 (Budd, Lot #9679-320, 1964) to Amtrak #9915 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39915 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Tom McOwen-Cincinnati RY Co., later (when??) to Nashville & Eastern. Current status unknown.

176. Hi-Level 68 seat chair-transition #542 (Budd, Lot #9679-320, 1964) to Amtrak #9916 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39916 in 1979. Sold in 2003 to Philip Sheridan-IFE Leasing, later (when??) to Bucol & Associates. Current status unknown.

177. Hi-Level 68 seat chair-transition #543 (Budd, Lot #9679-320, 1964) to Amtrak #9917 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39917 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Tom McOwen-Cincinnati RY Co., later (when??) to Nashville & Eastern. Current status unknown.

178. Hi-Level 68 seat chair-transition #545 (Budd, Lot #9679-320, 1964) to Amtrak #9919 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39919 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Pacific RR Society.

179. Hi-Level 68 seat chair-transition #546 (Budd, Lot #9679-320, 1964) to Amtrak #9920 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39920 in 1979. Sold in 2003 to Chuck Crisler-King Publishing, later (when??) to John Radovich-John's Trains Inc. (Dallas). Current status unknown.

180. Hi-Level 68 seat chair-transition #547 (Budd, Lot #9679-320, 1964) to Amtrak #9921 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39921 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to AAR. Current status unknown.

181. Hi-Level 68 seat chair-transition #548 (Budd, Lot #9679-320, 1964) to Amtrak #9922 planned conversion to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39922 was cancelled due to being wrecked on 10-2-1979 on #4 Southwest Limited at Lawrence, KS. Stored and later (when??) sold to Les Kasten-ITAX. Current status unknown.

182. Hi-Level 80 seat diner #650 (Budd, Lot #9668-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9980 converted to HEP #39980 in 1986. Sold in 2003 to Philip Sheridan-IFE Leasing. Current status unknown.

183. Hi-Level 80 seat diner #651 (Budd, Lot #9668-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9981 converted to HEP #39981 in 1985. Sold in 2003 to Tom McOwen-Cincinnati RY Co., later (when??) to Nashville & Eastern. Current status unknown.

184. Hi-Level 80 seat diner #652 (Budd, Lot #9668-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9982 converted to HEP #39982 in 1985. Sold in 2003 to Don Williams (Atlanta). Current status unknown.

185. Hi-Level 80 seat diner #653 (Budd, Lot #9668-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9983 converted to HEP #39983 in 1986. Sold in 2003 to Philip Sheridan-IFE Leasing. Current status unknown.

186. Hi-Level 80 seat diner #654 (Budd, Lot #9668-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9984 converted to HEP #39984 in 1985. Sold in 2003 to John Radovich-John's Trains Inc. (Dallas). Current status unknown.

187. Hi-Level 80 seat diner #655 (Budd, Lot #9668-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9985 converted to HEP #39985 in 1985. Sold in 2003 to Ben Butterworth. Current status unknown.

188. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #700 (Budd, Lot #9670-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9940 converted to HEP #39940 in 1980, later modified for Heartland Flyer. Stored in 2007. Current status unknown.

189. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #702 (Budd, Lot #9670-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9942 converted to HEP #39942 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Dave Hoffman-Northern Sky (Black Falls, WI). Current status unknown.

190. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #704 (Budd, Lot #9670-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9944 converted to HEP #39944 in 1980. Damaged by fire on 3-1-2003 on #59 City of New Orleans at New Orleans coach yard. Sold (when??) to Pete Messina, later (when??) to Ben Butterworth. Current status unknown.

191. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #713 (Budd, Lot #9670-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9953 converted to HEP #39953 in 1980, later modified for Heartland Flyer. Stored in 2004. Current status unknown.

192. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #714 (Budd, Lot #9670-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9954 converted to HEP #39954 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Philip Sheridan-IFE Leasing. Current status unknown.

193. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #715 (Budd, Lot #9670-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9955 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39938 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Dave Hoffman-Northern Sky. Current status unknown.

194. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #716 (Budd, Lot #9670-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9956 converted to HEP #39956 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Philip Sheridan-IFE Leasing, later (when??) to Bucol & Associates, later (when??) to Rail Service Contractors Inc. (MJRX), stored at Granite City.

195. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #720 (Budd, Lot #9670-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9960 converted to HEP #39960 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Tom McOwen-Cincinnati RY Co., later (when??) to Nashville & Eastern. Current status unknown.

196. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #722 (Budd, Lot #9670-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9962 converted to HEP #39962 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Philip Sheridan-Ben Butterworth. Current status unknown.

197. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #723 (Budd, Lot #9670-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9963 converted to HEP #39963 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to John Radovich-John's Trains Inc. Current status unknown.

198. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #724 (Budd, Lot #9670-166, 1956) to Amtrak #9964 converted to HEP #39964 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Philip Sheridan-IFE Leasing, later (when??) to Bucol & Associates. Current status unknown.

199. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #725 (Budd, Lot #9670-320, 1964) to Amtrak #9925 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39925 in 1980. Wrecked on 10-9-1995 on #1 Sunset Limited at Hyder, AZ, and subsequently scrapped in 1-2003.

200. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #726 (Budd, Lot #9670-320, 1964) to Amtrak #9926 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39926 in 1980. Wrecked in 4-1985 on California Zephyr in Granby, CO, and subsequently stored. Sold in 2003 to Dave Hoffman-Northern Sky. Current status unknown.

201. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #728 (Budd, Lot #9670-320, 1964) to Amtrak #9928 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39928 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Philip Sheridan-Ben Butterworth. Current status unknown.

202. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #729 (Budd, Lot #9670-320, 1964) to Amtrak #9929 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39929 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Bucol & Associates, later (when??) to Railway Service Contractors Inc. (MJRX), stored at Granite City.

203. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #730 (Budd, Lot #9670-320, 1964) to Amtrak #9930 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39930 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Philip Sheridan-IFE Leasing, later (when??) to Bucol & Associates. Current status unknown.

204. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #731 (Budd, Lot #9670-320, 1964) to Amtrak #9931 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39931 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Philip Sheridan-IFE Leasing, later (when??) to Chuck Crisler-King Publishing, later (when??) to Jim Stephenson (Houston). Current status unknown.

205. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #732 (Budd, Lot #9670-320, 1964) to Amtrak #9932 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39932 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Philip Sheridan-Ben Butterworth. Current status unknown.

206. Hi-Level 72 seat chair #736 (Budd, Lot #9670-320, 1964) to Amtrak #9936 converted to HEP transition-coach-dormitory #39936 in 1980. Sold in 2003 to Philip Sheridan-IFE Leasing. Current status unknown.

Sources:

1. Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling Society passenger car roster pages: http://www.atsfrr.com/links/atsf/passenger.htm

2. Mike Palmieri's Amtrak rosters

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Update:

Super Chief baggage-messenger #3430 (Budd, Lot #967, 1937) sold in 1968 to Metal Processing Industries (Vinton, TX) is now owned by Arizona Transit Assembly as ATAX #3430 and stored in Mauldin, SC.

September 2009: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1773420 (Doug Coldiron photo)

#3430 is stored with two other ATAX-owned Budd cars, one of which is NYC twin unit diner #481, and the other is ATAX #2938, which I have not been able to identify.

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Should add that the NAMBE was restored and is now on lease to the Austin Steam Train for excursion service.

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Thanks, Ricky, for the info!

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Diner 1480 scrapped Utica, NY. Working on a date. Do not confuse this car with second NYS&W 508 which still exists and may be a CSX car now.

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Thanks, Joshua, for the info on #1480!

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Rainier Rails wrote:
Update:

Super Chief baggage-messenger #3430 (Budd, Lot #967, 1937) sold in 1968 to Metal Processing Industries (Vinton, TX) is now owned by Arizona Transit Assembly as ATAX #3430 and stored in Mauldin, SC.

September 2009: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1773420 (Doug Coldiron photo)

#3430 is stored with two other ATAX-owned Budd cars, one of which is NYC twin unit diner #481, and the other is ATAX #2938, which I have not been able to identify.


ATAX #3430 is currently listed for sale on Ozark Mountain Railcar:

http://www.ozarkmountainrailcar.com/detail.asp?id=578&n=ATSF-Baggage-Car-3430

ATAX ex-NYC kitchen #481 and diner #408 are also listed for sale:

http://www.ozarkmountainrailcar.com/detail.asp?id=518&n=New-York-Central-Twin-Unit-Diner-REDUCED

(Interesting that #481 was originally paired with #407, and #408 was paired with #482!)

The previously unidentified ATAX #2938 is also ex-NYC, and is also listed for sale. Interestingly, Randall lists this car as scrapped in 1972 as LIRR #529!

http://www.ozarkmountainrailcar.com/detail.asp?id=517&n=New-York-Central-Coach-2938-REDUCED

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Pleasant Valley sold in 1967 to Morre Clebolt-Illini Railroad Club and renamed Chief Illini II, now at Monticello RY Museum.


Just to clarify, the Pleasant Valley has been restored to its original name and repainted by the Monticello Railway Museum into one of the several two-tone grey paint schemes it wore during service on the Santa Fe. It's probably the only surviving ATSF lightweight to retain the interior decor and electrical/hvac system (32 volt/steam heat/Pullman Mechanical a/c) in use at the time it came out of service. At present you can tour the interior of the car when the museum is open to the public on summer weekends.


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