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 Post subject: Re: AC&J Scenic shuts down
PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:35 am 

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The two ping pongs were the cars that McDonald Steel in McDonald, OH once used at their steel mill. The company founder, David Houck would entertain guests and perspective customers on these cars as the train made its way around the plant. The cars were later sold to the AC&J.

McDonald's locomotive, Alco S2 No. 777 was donated last year to Youngstown Steel Heritage and we are making plans to move it to a new location.

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 Post subject: Re: AC&J Scenic shuts down
PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:37 am 

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Rob:

Unfortunately I don't have any further information on the excursion start-up on the Buffalo Southern. I learned about it from someone at the AC&J when inquiring about the fate of the two cars but I haven't seen anything online about when it will become a reality.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:15 pm 

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A passenger car and 2 cabeese are at Eden:

http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=223638

I've heard nothing about it.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:43 am 

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Anyone know what happened to the open car #100?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:05 pm 

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Dave: I sent an email yesterday in which I asked about the status of No. 100. I'll let you know if I receive a reply.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:43 pm 

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The ex Knox and Kane open car is in Dunkirk, NY, privately owned by S. Symans that owns the Viscose 6.

As for the Buffalo Southern start up. The group is a start up, but it is not owned or controlled by the Buffalo Southern Railroad. They are only host to all of the equipment. The group helped to run steam excursions for a town bicentennial on the BSOR. There is hopes to run other trips at some point. Of course, the two coaches need to be moved first...

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 Post subject: Re: AC&J Scenic shuts down
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:49 pm 

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Update:

LIRR P54 7099 is being loaded in Ohio for delivery to the Walkersville Southern RR in Maryland as I type, as per a Facebook post:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... 1234616402


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:44 pm 

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From the same WS Facebook thread, wow, I guess this is also an ex-LI car, not what you would expect:


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 Post subject: Re: AC&J Scenic shuts down
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:06 pm 

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RYPN's own Dave Collison was the driving force behind saving this car.

Dave came to the Midwest Narrow Gauge Show on Saturday and mentioned that his crew would be moving the car. I had nothing going on Sunday so Nick Hovey and I drove up there to lend a hand.

After the one end of the car was up in the air and one truck was loaded onto a trailer and on its way back to Maryland, we all went out to lunch and then headed over to North East, PA to visit with our friends at the Lake Shore Railway Museum.

In this photo, from left to right is Dave Collison, Ryan Maxwell from LSRM, Wayne Kirchhof from WS, Rick Rowlands, Paul Kovalcik from WS, Nick Hovey and an unnamed LSRM volunteer standing in front of the remains of LS&MS business car 20. Tim Donahue was behind the camera.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:57 pm 

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ACYX 721 was originally IC 2678? I think, a 1918 betterment car. IC rebuilt it after WWII into a 52 seat coach with AC and large windows, and roller bearings and tightlock couplers. Mr. Byer had it at Noblesville, Ind. and sold it to Wayne York and Glenn Brendel in 1978- dba Palace Car Company. Moved to Fort Wayne, refurbished and renumbered into a sequence that was suitable for NKP 2-8-4 765 excursions. After several years of operations, it was sold to Jim Bacon and his partner whose name now escapes me. 721 was a smooth and quiet car..........


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:44 pm 

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#7099 has arrived at the Walkersville Southern (from their Facebook page). The post says that the coach will become a "regular excursion" car.

Does anyone know why a previous owner blanked so many windows?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:58 pm 

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It was used as a concession car on the K&K.

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 Post subject: Re: AC&J Scenic shuts down
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:18 pm 

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The trucks arrived ahead of the car on Monday and I spent Tuesday cleaning off the caked dirt, grime and surface rust since it wasn't going to be any easier after the coach's body is put on top of them. I eliminated the rust with an angle grinder and a circular wire brush, and although I don't think I quite set a personal record for getting filthy, it was indeed a day for the record books. I finished the day by putting primer paint on the sides of the trucks and will follow up with black paint next week. I came home, cleaned up and, being worn out, slept like a log.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:46 pm 

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Tim Moriarty wrote:
The trucks arrived ahead of the car on Monday and I spent Tuesday cleaning off the caked dirt, grime and surface rust since it wasn't going to be any easier after the coach's body is put on top of them. I eliminated the rust with an angle grinder and a circular wire brush, and although I don't think I quite set a personal record for getting filthy, it was indeed a day for the record books. I finished the day by putting primer paint on the sides of the trucks and will follow up with black paint next week. I came home, cleaned up and, being worn out, slept like a log.


It's the best sleep you get, when you've busted your butt to voluntarily, often behind the scenes, to complete a task for a good cause .....At least IMO.

Done it many many times.


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 Post subject: Re: AC&J Scenic shuts down
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:07 pm 

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PMC wrote:
#7099 has arrived at the Walkersville Southern (from their Facebook page). The post says that the coach will become a "regular excursion" car.

Does anyone know why a previous owner blanked so many windows?

While at Steamtown the car was converted from a coach into a cafe car.

When it was sold to the Knox and Kane they converted half of the snack bar into a gift shop area and blanked over the windows.

Thankfully they are only painted over and should clean up without too much trouble.


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