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Author:  softwerkslex [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:42 am ]
Post subject:  Budd Pioneer III

I am looking at a Trains 1956 article on the Budd Pioneer III coach design. Anyone know what happened to these? Were many in service?

Author:  Topfuel [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Budd Pioneer III

I believe the SEPTA Silverliners were based largely on the Pioneer III design. The Amfleet I and II cars have a variation of the Pioneer III truck, as do some orders of cars for the Chicago Transit Authority (CTA).

Author:  Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Budd Pioneer III

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Pioneer+III+railroad+car

Two saved. Guess where.

Author:  filmteknik [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Budd Pioneer III

Yeah, but what of the actual Pioneer III prototype, not the half dozen that came later? Scrapped after the second round of turbine testing? LIRR did a lot of turbine testing so it's easy to get lost in the web coverage of that stuff.

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Author:  softwerkslex [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Budd Pioneer III

Great, Thanks! And that automated Google search link is really clever. Sorry if I was a little too quick to ask without digging myself.

Author:  G. W. Laepple [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Budd Pioneer III

Just so all you folks know, the two Pioneer III cars at the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania no longer exist. They were deaccessioned last year and reduced to bite-size pieces by a contractor. They had been stripped of seats and pretty much everything else before they came to the museum so were not worth much as exhibits.

Author:  Reading T1 2124 [ Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Budd Pioneer III

According to Wikipedia, if it is true, three Pioneer III's went to the FRA test site. It doesn't mention what happened to them. Were the crashed beyond recognition while there? If not there's still hope for preservation.

Author:  Frank Hicks [ Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Budd Pioneer III

G. W. Laepple wrote:
Just so all you folks know, the two Pioneer III cars at the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania no longer exist. They were deaccessioned last year and reduced to bite-size pieces by a contractor.


Were those the two ex-SEPTA cars, 246 and 247?

Author:  ns2110 [ Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Budd Pioneer III

Yes indeed. 246 and 247 is correct. I heard some rumblings that one of the recently retired Silverliner IIs or IIIs was to be donated. Any truth to that?

Author:  Reading T1 2124 [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Budd Pioneer III

That's what I heard. I believe it was Reading 9001, let's hope it doesn't reach a similar demise.

Author:  Richard Glueck [ Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Budd Pioneer III

That's my photo of the GT3 on the Long Island Rail Road. Curious as what became of this particular experimental car. Anybody know?

Author:  Reading T1 2124 [ Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Budd Pioneer III

Well, due to no specific notes on what happened to it I can guess you don't want to know what the disposition probably is.

Author:  Richard Glueck [ Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Budd Pioneer III

Don't keep me guessing. I'm too old.

Author:  baldwin [ Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Budd Pioneer III

There are 2 old Silverliners III's at Wayne Shop out back, one is #238, don't know the # of the other because all the number boards have been removed.

Author:  o484 [ Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Budd Pioneer III

9001 from what I've read was donated to the RRMPA; it just hasn't been moved yet.

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