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 Post subject: Re: Age of Steam Roundhouse Updates
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:58 am 

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JJJ has that rare combination in railroad circles that makes things happen--passion and deep pockets

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 Post subject: Re: Age of Steam Roundhouse Updates
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:39 pm 

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It begs the question 'Which steamers are currently on the to be restored to operation list?' I'm curious about the potential for the Berkshire and Decapod to see steam in the near future. It seems JJJ is slowly checking off wheel arrangements to add to his collection. Kudos to him for achieving what most groups never achieved in steam preservation!



I would love to see the Woodward Iron 41 restored! I have watched it for years sitting out at Mid-Continent, and was greatly heartened to learn that AOS had purchased it. That said, it makes me wonder why the GTW 6325 seems to have fallen from a priority. The U3B's were some of the finest looking 4-8-4's ever. ($.02) I would love to have an opportunity to visit the place some day.

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 Post subject: Re: Age of Steam Roundhouse Updates
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:45 pm 

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since JJ doesn't own a railroad anymore, he has no place to run anymore, besides 1293 running on Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railway occasionally.


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 Post subject: Re: Age of Steam Roundhouse Updates
PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:50 am 

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The Age of Steam Roundhouse in Sugarcreek, Ohio, has sent to the website known as steamlocomotive.com a list of updated and corrected information about the 18 steam locomotives (and one compressed-air loco) in the collection of Jerry Jacobson. When posted on that website, this brief bit of information should put to rest the rumors and incorrect speculation as seen on this forum about the current status of Jerry's steam locomotives. All of his steam locomotives are housed safely and dry inside the AoSRH buildings.

For the past seven years, the construction progress of the AoSRH facilities and historic railroad rolling stock in Jerry Jacobson's collection has been documented in words and photos on our website, [url]www.ageofsteamroundhouse.com[/url] . Please refer to the AoSRH website to see our mission statement, past history, current status and future plans for the Age of Steam Roundhouse. Answers to most of your questions can be found on our website.

While visiting the AoSRH website, be sure to see the information that has been posted about our Saturday-only, pre-arranged group tours. AoSRH employees and volunteers have been conducting such warm-weather, May-October tours for the past five years, and are preparing for another six-month season of entertaining and educating groups of curious people. We are not set up to handle individuals or unannounced walk-ins -- for safety all tour-takers must be in a pre-scheduled group. AoSRH staff members are bending-over backward to accommodate those people who want to come to Sugarcreek to see this magnificent structure and the railroad collection inside. Use the link on our website to contact us about arranging a group tour.

Keep in mind that since Jerry Jacobson no longer owns the neighboring railroad line, the Age of Steam Roundhouse will not be operating any sort of public excursion trains on those tracks. However, we'd be happy to host your group for a Saturday tour.

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 Post subject: Re: Age of Steam Roundhouse Updates
PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:36 am 
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John,
Thank you very much for your post. I'm nowhere near Ohio and I can't imagine when (or even if) I'll ever be in the area, but if I know I'll be around there, I'll be sure to do what I can to correctly get tot see this amazing collection.

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 Post subject: Re: Age of Steam Roundhouse Updates
PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:37 am 

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Thank you for your post, John.

I do have a few questions, and if you are not at liberty to divulge answers, I understand: what is the nature of the agreement with the neighboring railroad? I.E. how many times are you able to run on their tracks per year? Though you don't run passenger trips now, will there ever be any chance of that in the future? Does the relationship with the railroad guarantee (loosely speaking) a consistently strong opportunity to run?

In the back of my head, I'm thinking of restoration plans that were abandoned because of a lack of opportunity to run, as well as of restored steamers that only can run 1-2 times a year (e.g. Soo 1003) because of the nature of the host railroad. As we have discussed at length elsewhere, restoring locomotives makes little sense if they don't have opportunity to stretch their legs.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:05 pm 
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misterwandle wrote:
The Age of Steam Roundhouse in Sugarcreek, Ohio, has sent to the website known as steamlocomotive.com a list of updated and corrected information about the 18 steam locomotives (and one compressed-air loco) in the collection of Jerry Jacobson. When posted on that website, this brief bit of information should put to rest the rumors and incorrect speculation as seen on this forum about the current status of Jerry's steam locomotives. All of his steam locomotives are housed safely and dry inside the AoSRH buildings.

For the past seven years, the construction progress of the AoSRH facilities and historic railroad rolling stock in Jerry Jacobson's collection has been documented in words and photos on our website, [url]www.ageofsteamroundhouse.com[/url] . Please refer to the AoSRH website to see our mission statement, past history, current status and future plans for the Age of Steam Roundhouse. Answers to most of your questions can be found on our website.

While visiting the AoSRH website, be sure to see the information that has been posted about our Saturday-only, pre-arranged group tours. AoSRH employees and volunteers have been conducting such warm-weather, May-October tours for the past five years, and are preparing for another six-month season of entertaining and educating groups of curious people. We are not set up to handle individuals or unannounced walk-ins -- for safety all tour-takers must be in a pre-scheduled group. AoSRH staff members are bending-over backward to accommodate those people who want to come to Sugarcreek to see this magnificent structure and the railroad collection inside. Use the link on our website to contact us about arranging a group tour.

Keep in mind that since Jerry Jacobson no longer owns the neighboring railroad line, the Age of Steam Roundhouse will not be operating any sort of public excursion trains on those tracks. However, we'd be happy to host your group for a Saturday tour.

John B. Corns
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I wonder if you would be willing to provide that info to steamlocomotive.info as well?

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 Post subject: Re: Age of Steam Roundhouse Updates
PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:54 am 

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The Age of Steam Roundhouse is once again offering Saturday group tours of the roundhouse and back shop during 2017.

Our 19th steam locomotive, Yreka Western 2-8-2 #19, is en route on a flatcar and will soon arrive. AoSRH also has 27 diesels, two-dozen passenger cars and a variety of freight cars and work equipment.

Please visit our website at [url]www.ageofsteamroundhouse.com[/url] to view the announcement and to schedule your tour.

Thank you for your continued support and interest in the Age of Steam Roundhouse. We hope to see you in Sugarcreek this summer!

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 Post subject: Re: Age of Steam Roundhouse Updates
PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:47 am 

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Restoring some of the big steam to serviceable condition would be nice, in particular the 6325 and 763. One or more tank locos to run around the property would also be sweet.
I find it hard to believe JJJ would allow his RR operating rights to evaporate while establishing his kingdom.

I do hope he has his eyes set on a certain 2-10-4, near Pittsburgh.

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 Post subject: Re: Age of Steam Roundhouse Updates
PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:50 am 

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from what I have read here and other places, JJ tried several times to get that 2-10-4, but no dice.
And he sold the railroad to finance the AOS.


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 Post subject: Re: Age of Steam Roundhouse Updates
PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:40 am 

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Yes, my understanding is that the 2-10-4 has always been high on his radar, but the owner wasn't interested, in spite of having no other viable options. As time goes by, the cost and difficulty of retrieving the locomotive rises. It becomes a question of whether the effort can be justified now, even if the owner has a change of heart.

I guess there is always some hope. I'd love to be proved wrong.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:12 pm 

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As has many times been discussed here at length the 643's chance of being liberated from her now landlocked location came and went a number of years ago thanks to a totally unrealistic owner.

The odds are now at least 100:1 that her eventual fate will be to be cut up where she sits.

Sad but true. Ross Rowland


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 Post subject: Re: Age of Steam Roundhouse Updates
PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:29 pm 

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co614 wrote:
As has many times been discussed here at length the 643's chance of being liberated from her now landlocked location came and went a number of years ago thanks to a totally unrealistic owner.

The odds are now at least 100:1 that her eventual fate will be to be cut up where she sits.

Sad but true. Ross Rowland


So long I've read the same message from you

Since it's time to try to prove your say by some Fact (not only the landlocked location)

We can move a big boy we can move a texas

If you not try to change your negatif attitude move out the subject

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 Post subject: Re: Age of Steam Roundhouse Updates
PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:50 pm 

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"I find it hard to believe JJJ would allow his RR operating rights to evaporate while establishing his kingdom."


He didn't. The AoSRH is permitted to operate on the neighboring railroad, and has done so several times with both steam and diesel power. However, we cannot run passenger trains due to the railroad's new owner not wanting that potential liability. Neither did Jerry, as he stopped operating the Ohio Central RR's summertime steam tourist trains about 15 years ago because he, too, did not want that potential liability.

Being the sole owner of the OCRR and rolling stock, all financial responsibility not covered by insurance was on Jerry's shoulders. In the event of a bad wreck caused by a runaway gasoline truck at a grade crossing, even though not at fault, Jerry might have had to sell his assets to settle law suits, which might have negatively affected operation of his railroads and his employees' jobs. He decided that the risk was too great, and shut down the summer tourist trains.

When Jerry reached the age of 65 he decided to retire and rid himself of the stress of owning and operating 10 different railroads. He sold them in 2008. Plans to construct the Age of Steam Roundhouse had been under way long before then.

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 Post subject: Re: Age of Steam Roundhouse Updates
PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:23 am 

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Richard Glueck wrote:
Restoring some of the big steam to serviceable condition would be nice, in particular the 6325 and 763. One or more tank locos to run around the property would also be sweet.


John, is it in the plans to allow organizations/railroads to lease some of these steam locomotives once they become operable - if everything is agreeable to both JJJ and the AOS operating groups?

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