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 Post subject: The Zanesville & Western Scenic Railroad's beginnings
PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:21 am 

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This organization, developed in 2008, known as the Zanesville and Western Scenic Railroad, operates train rides on the old original Zanesville and Western Railroad line.

The tourist railroad originally began in 1982 as the Buckeye Central Scenic Railroad. It operated between National Road at US 40 and Raccoon Creek in Heath, Ohio, on the outskirts of Newark on the old Baltimore and Ohio Shawnee Branch. Up until the late 80's, the train would also cross over US 40 where it would continue south past the depot until crossing underneath I70. The track was shortened and used for storing cabooses until the early 2000's when the track across US 40 was pulled. Passengers would typically board the train at the National Road Station (1875 built) and the old freight house, and ride through farmland, over bridges and creeks and pass farm houses, and rolling hills.

Beginning in 1983, the Buckeye Central Scenic Railroad (BCSR) established a volunteer-staffed short line scenic railroad attraction in Licking County. The train initially ran about three miles between Rt. 40 across from Lakewood High School to Irving Wick Drive in Heath. A small station next to the south end of the line on Rt. 40 was used to sell souvenirs. The Newark, Heath, Buckeye Lake Scenic Railway was the corporate name for the BCSR.[1]

The founding of the BCSR began with former railroad employees, enthusiasts, collectors, and volunteers. A group of former B & O Railroad employees negotiated an agreement to lease the line from the Chessie Railroad at $1 per year. Chessie also donated five railroad cars. The engine was provided by one of the directors of the BCSR. [2]

The equipment included an EMD SW1, built in the 1950's for the Pennsylvania Railroad, later Penn Central and then Buckeye Central Scenic Railroad. The 4 Canadian National coaches were acquired from the Cuyahoga Valley Line (now Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad) in the mid 1980's, and also owned an old B&O baggage car, a B&O Car (named Constitution), a Chessie System Caboose, N&W Caboose, C&O Caboose and an ex B&O gondola car. In the mid 1980's and early 1990's, 2-4-0 steam locomotive #7 from the PL&W ( Pittsburgh Lisbon and Western), American Viscose and Laurel Highland RR operated steam powered trips (some photos can be found online or at the Buckeye Express Diner in Bellville, Ohio). The steam locomotive operated until 1993 and is now on display in McDonough, Georgia. Video footage of it near Youngstown (with some Ohio Central cars now at Age of Steam Roundhouse) can be found in these links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl2Kad8rkxw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSZHuFYuMuc

In 2003, #8599, and the four coaches went to Byesville, Ohio to help restart train service on the old Pennsylvania Railroad Marietta Branch to start the Byesville Scenic Railway. For two years, the Buckeye Central Scenic Railroad operated their "Byesville Division" while back at home, the old line needed lots of work and repair, but a newly acquired Davenport Locomotive #4, which once operated at a coal mine and a Plymouth model JDT locomotive No. 7 (now in Colorado) operated short runs to White Chapel Road, including a Pumpkin Patch train. By mid 2005 and early 2006 Byesville Scenic Railway had their own equipment and the SW1 and coaches returned home to Jacksontown, Ohio. Footage of it in Byesville can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWwTlxfrNQY

Unfortunately, the old home met the coffin nail. In mid 2007, the Thomas J. Evans Foundation made a proposal of putting in a bike path in place. Operations were suspended for two weeks and on September 30, 2007, I rode the very last departure on their Final Runs out of Hebron. I had the opportunity to climb in #8599's cab, ring the bell and sound the horn.

When the BCSR’s lease was not renewed by the current leaseholder, the Licking County Foundation, the train took its final passenger run in September 2007. Much of the equipment and the contents of the station were to be auctioned off. It was suggested that the track bed may be used as a bike path.[3]

The last runs I took can be seen here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqOq17wAlBo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsiZ1SMCEs8

Many equipment was auctioned off, and the equipment which ended up moving out were as follows:

Chessie System Caboose (now at Mr. Tree Farm in Reynoldsburg)
Railroad signal at National Road Depot and Hopewell Drive (Mr Tree Farm Reynoldsburg)
Plymouth JDT #7
Several MOW equipment
Old Amtrak Coach (now alongside the Ohio Central line in Newark)

The old Chessie system caboose can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV7CI6lOFdY

The railroad then moved ALL the rest of their other equipment north to Hopewell Drive near Heath, Ohio. The track was then torn up south to the National Road depot from Hopewell.

In 2008, the Buckeye Central Scenic Railroad and the Bass Run Rail Riders worked together to establish a new railway—the Zanesville and Western Scenic Railroad. The group planned to operate the new scenic railroad in Muskingum County. Several railroad cars, the cabooses, and the engine from the Buckeye Central Scenic Railroad were to be utilized by the new ZWSR.[4]

[1], [2], [3], & [4] came from this link:

http://wiki.lickingcountylibrary.info/B ... ic_Railway

In summer 2008, the equipment was moved to Avondale. #8599 and the C&O Caboose and N&W Caboose sat between SR 93 and Crock Road across from Carter Lumber where temporary Santa Caboose days were held to raise funds for train rides and rehabilitation. Unfortunately, in 2012, vandals broke windows and the locomotive and two cars were taken back across the street to Carter Lumber on the old siding where trains were once loaded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kdAoz1vepk

The other remaining equipment, the Constitution and B&O baggage car did not arrive at Avondale until 2009 or 2010, as I was told by ZWSR volunteers. I found the cars on Google Maps near the Ohio Central Switch in Avondale.

In 2009, the railroad acquired a privately owned bay window caboose from Cincinatti, and an old US Army 45 tonner #4541. Two 75 tonner Timken engines, a transfer caboose for MOW, high-rail trucks and an extra baggage car also arrived around 2009 or 2010.

In 2013, the railroad trucked the new diesel, B&O gondola and new caboose to Mt. Perry where operations finally began after a 6-year hiatus. Train rides currently run at Mount Perry between a bridge and Coopermill Road (many crossings were paved over since 2000). The railroad is intending to rehabilitate the line west to 668 (crossing completely taken out and hill removed in 2006) and into Glassrock, as well as repair bridges and head east to Fultonham and eventually Avondale, Ohio where the Ohio Central line connects up.

The railroad then acquired another MOW flat car in 2015 and an NYC baggage car as well as an old Long Island “ping pong coach” from the defunct Knightstown Railroad in 2016.

For more information about train rides and how you can help visit http://zwsr.org/


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 Post subject: Re: The Zanesville & Western Scenic Railroad's beginnings
PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:48 am 

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Excellent synopsis of one of the lesser known tourist operations.

Welcome aboard!

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 Post subject: Re: The Zanesville & Western Scenic Railroad's beginnings
PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:57 pm 

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Neat little line which I was not aware of. Looks like the name came from a nearby short line that later became part of the NYC and is now mostly gone, but the current Z&WSR is a former B&O branch. Lots of bridges needing work according to the website http://zwsr.org/. If you need timbers the owners of the Kinzua viaduct in PA have (or had) been selling timbers that were installed before it was knocked down by a tornado.

Curious who owns the right of way, there have been discussions here recently about how public ownership can be fraught and tenuous.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:09 pm 

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ediebold wrote:



Beginning in 1983, the Buckeye Central Scenic Railroad (BCSR) established a volunteer-staffed short line scenic railroad attraction in Licking County.


In the mid 1980's and early 1990's, 2-4-0 steam locomotive #7 from the PL&W ( Pittsburgh Lisbon and Western), American Viscose and Laurel Highland RR operated steam powered trips (some photos can be found online or at the Buckeye Express Diner in Bellville, Ohio). The steam locomotive operated until 1993 and is now on display in McDonough, Georgia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl2Kad8rkxw



The 2-4-0 looked and sounded good in this video. Also liked the dog at about the 12 minute mark that repeatedly "attacked" the little Porter and chased it away from its property! Apparently number 7 was a rebuild of an 0-4-0T and she seemed to have no problem with hauling 5 heavyweight coaches and a caboose. VIVA La Porter!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:20 pm 

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Does anyone know what became of the former CNJ passenger cars that were used with number 7? Did they also end up with the Ohio Central/Age of Steam?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:54 pm 

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derail wrote:
Does anyone know what became of the former CNJ passenger cars that were used with number 7? Did they also end up with the Ohio Central/Age of Steam?


It appears Laurel Highlands used 3 CNJ coaches.

1182 - now Age of Steam collection
1183 - now Everett Railroad
unknown # - burned by vandals and scrapped at Youngwood, PA, circa 2006.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:06 am 

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The PL&W was a short lived operation on the former Youngstown & Southern Railroad. The first of several operators of this line since the P&LE sold it off. At the end of the video the train is backing through Mill Rock Cut and yes the clearances are as tight as they look.

The Y&S has a fascinating history, far more interesting than many small short lines. It was a combination of the Youngstown & Suburban interurban line which ran north and south and the Pittsburgh Lisbon & Western that ran east and west. In the early 1930s the Pittsburgh Coal Co. desired to build their own railroad to move coal to Youngstown, gained control of both railroads and built a private railroad from the Ohio River to the PL&W and a connection between the PL&W and the Y&S. For a while secondhand 2-8-0s and 2-8-2s would move coal from the river to the electrified portion, where a pair of Baldwin Westinghouse electrics would move the trains to Youngstown.

The PRR was adamantly against the Y&S's scheme and opposed it greatly. However, previous trackage rights granted to the Y&S over their Canfield branch in Youngstown meant that all of that coal that was undercutting the PRR's rates rolled right over PRR track, and there was nothing they could do about it!

The Y&S is still alive, operated now by Indiana Boxcar. It is now getting an injection of new business as a C&D landfill is reopening in Negley. I have recently been hired part time to assist in trackwork, locomotive maintenance and whatever else is needed.

I am also the custodian of all of the Y&S corporate records dating back to the beginning of both railroads. Enough records to fill a small room. And from other sources I have obtained the PRR files relating to that Canfield Branch trackage rights dilemma and yet another set of files from the P&LE, where they were engaging in industrial espionage as President Yohe was trying to figure out if the Pittsburgh Coal Co. was going to build the private railroad (which of course it did).

BTW I was a volunteer for that PL&W tourist operation. I have one video of that operation:
https://youtu.be/oSZHuFYuMuc

In that video, No. 7 pulls an SW7 out of the enginehouse. Now an SW7 is not a large locomotive, but compared to No. 7 it is a giant!

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