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 Post subject: Surprising rail preservation story!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:09 pm 

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Was checking out John Eagan of Hoosier Hobbies FLICKR page today and ran across this photo:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/31385681@ ... ateposted/

There have been some towers preserved in place and others moved and preserved (such as Grasselli Tower at HVRM), but this is the first I have ever heard of a tower being moved and preserved as a non-historical building. I know that depots have been relocated and then used for other purposes, but this interlocking tower is a first for me. Are there possibly others?

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 Post subject: Re: Surprising rail preservation story!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:11 pm 

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It wasn't moved, but the CNJ's "QR" tower in Roselle, NJ is now a dwelling.

http://www.rypn.org/briefs/single.php?filename=060824064220.txt

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 Post subject: Re: Surprising rail preservation story!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:01 pm 

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Les: The former PRR and Erie RR Tower at Leetonia, Ohio was moved by a close-by lumber company onto their property. It still has the interlocking machine inside which I believe is a US&S Flip Flop machine.
There was a very old PRR tower, an early "signal box" style when they were placed every five miles. Anyway, it existed on the old PRR "Panhandle" and had been moved to a farm. Sadly, the farmer destroyed it in the 1990's.
Oops; forgot the PRR one at Brady Lake, Ohio.
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 Post subject: Re: Surprising rail preservation story!
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:08 pm 

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Kevin -

Thanks for that info. Was a bit curious about the relocated interlocking tower at Leetonia, Ohio. Did a bit of looking on the internet and here is a photo from 1987 with the tower still in its original location:

http://northamericaninterlockings.com/i ... pp.jpg?895

And this is probably a later view after it was moved:

http://northamericaninterlockings.com/i ... rs.jpg?455

Note in the later photo that the window arrangement on the second floor over the door has been changed. To reflect the original window configuration? Also, I'm assuming that the rail line in the 1987 photo is the old Pennsy. Not sure where the old Erie branch line would have come into the picture.

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 Post subject: Re: Surprising rail preservation story!
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:14 pm 

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Les:
I believe that was the Lisbon Branch of the Erie RR.

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 Post subject: Re: Surprising rail preservation story!
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:31 pm 

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kevin kohls wrote:
Les:
I believe that was the Lisbon Branch of the Erie RR.

Kevin K.


Thanks Kevin. I found the timetable for the Lisbon Branch in an Official Guide and note that the Erie crossed the PRR at Leetonia. I looked on a Satellite view of the town and couldn't figure exactly where, in relation to the tower, the railroads crossed. But things have changed a lot over the years I'm sure.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:00 am 

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The Erie and the PRR didn't have a crossing diamond at Leetonia, instead the Erie merged with the PRR from the northeast, crossed over from one side to the other, and exited to the southwest. See the interlocking diagram here:

http://broadway.pennsyrr.com/Rail/Prr/M ... etonia.gif

The former and present locations of the tower are plainly visible on Google Streetview:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8768279 ... 312!8i6656

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:37 pm 

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Larry -

That explains it. Thanks very much!


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 Post subject: Re: Surprising rail preservation story!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:43 pm 

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The New York Central tower at Sterling, N.Y., (protecting a junction with the Lehigh Valley) was relocated to the grounds of the Sterling Historical Society:

http://www.sterlinghistoricalsociety.org/?page_id=10

It's plainly visible in the street view:

https://goo.gl/maps/toJMtiS5W2T2

Even better view:

Image

Maybe this doesn't count because it didn't find a "new" use, but it's definitely not being used as a railroad tower any more.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:47 pm 

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How about the retired LIRR tower at Locust Valley, N.Y.? It was retired in 1975, and the local police have used it as a substation ever since. Still in its original location, as far as I know.

Here's what it looks like today:

https://goo.gl/maps/ksEaBGFDmKL2

Here's a complete history, with photos:

http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/locust ... valley.htm

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 Post subject: Re: Surprising rail preservation story!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:59 pm 

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Otto -

Thanks very much for the information on these two surviving towers in New York.

The Sterling tower WAS saved for historical purposes by the Sterling Historical Society, and I'm glad they moved it. The tower looks absolutely great!

The LIRR tower in Locust Valley has found a non-historical use (police department) but WASN'T moved from its original location. It too looks wonderful today. What fascinated me as I was reading through the photo story was the reference to a flag being used as an indication for train orders. The "stripe" indicating to trains coming from the opposite direction that there were no orders for them. This is the first I have ever heard about flags being so used, but I wonder if this was an even older system than order board signals? The other interesting thing was that, at some time, a color position signal replaced the double headed semaphore but then a head with a separate single light was added much later. What is this used for?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:35 pm 

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Les Beckman wrote:
Kevin -

Thanks for that info. Was a bit curious about the relocated interlocking tower at Leetonia, Ohio. Did a bit of looking on the internet and here is a photo from 1987 with the tower still in its original location:

http://northamericaninterlockings.com/i ... pp.jpg?895

And this is probably a later view after it was moved:

http://northamericaninterlockings.com/i ... rs.jpg?455

Note in the later photo that the window arrangement on the second floor over the door has been changed. To reflect the original window configuration? Also, I'm assuming that the rail line in the 1987 photo is the old Pennsy. Not sure where the old Erie branch line would have come into the picture.

Les


The track diverging to the right in front of the tower in the first photo is the Erie heading north to Niles. The Erie on to Lisbon would be be in the distance out of view.

The tower today would be visible in the first photo, across the tracks from the original location, a couple hundred feet down the track, and turned 90 degrees. You can recreate the view in Google street view.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8767491,-80.7569448,3a,76.4y,239.75h,81.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svudblO2Rl_0PS3jy274soA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

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