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 Post subject: SRNJ scrapping locomotives
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:09 pm 

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Reported that an ex Bay Colony 44 ton already cut and an ex P&W /IAIS M420 is next. (There is a set of GE B trucks). Likely more will follow like the two ex B&LE F7's?

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 Post subject: Re: SRNJ scrapping locomotives
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:38 pm 

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Excuse me for being ignorant or uninformed, but--SRNJ?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:41 pm 

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:04 pm 
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Sad to see another set of F7's biting the dust. Wasn't there a RS-3m there too, still in faded Conrail paint? I haven't heard anything on that 3m in years and last I heard it was stored in southern NJ.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:25 pm 

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RS3M is long gone years ago - sold to some place in Canada I think.
F's didn't bite the dust yet - but they are locomotives which have been used in a couple years.
Mechanically not too bad condition when they were parked.

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Sad to see another set of F7's biting the dust. Wasn't there a RS-3m there too, still in faded Conrail paint? I haven't heard anything on that 3m in years and last I heard it was stored in southern NJ.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:48 pm 

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Here are some recent photos of SRNJ 727 and 728.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPicture.aspx?id=34577

These units are notable for their assignment to the Western Allegheny branch where they were noted as being the last F-units working for their original owner in revenue service in the 1990s. In their striking as-delivered paint scheme they were frequently leased to the B&O and PRR.

Have these units been advertised as being "available" anywhere? Has any group tried to raise funds to preserve them?

I think they would fit in well with a shortline that has a successful passenger business but might need additional power to handle a growing freight business.



Here is a discussion of CNJ 1548. This was its original CNJ number - In Canada it was numbered "CNJ1548" !

http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10460&p=48743&hilit=1548#p48743

The unit had quite a bit of work done by its owner (Ed Rhone, if I recall) to return it to its Alco appearance while retaining its EMD Prime Mover.

This locomotive was scrapped in Canada in 2008.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:36 pm 

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arjay3 wrote:
Reported that an ex Bay Colony 44 ton already cut and an ex P&W /IAIS M420 is next. (There is a set of GE B trucks). Likely more will follow like the two ex B&LE F7's?

RWJ

What wrong with the M420? Parts unit?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:15 pm 

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If memory serves me, all three or at least two of the three 44 tonners are on friction bearings. They look good and until recently were secured and clean (less grafitti). But the taggers have gotten to them recently.

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 Post subject: Re: SRNJ scrapping locomotives
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:09 am 

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Mr. Ed wrote:
If memory serves me, all three or at least two of the three 44 tonners are on friction bearings. They look good and until recently were secured and clean (less grafitti). But the taggers have gotten to them recently.

Later!
Mr. Ed


Friction bearings are not a problem on a 44 ton as they have to go by truck or flat car anyway All of them came to the SRNJ by truck.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:03 pm 

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Not so re: friction bearings. The late 412 came from Ball in Cinniminson on it's own wheels, although all three came from out of state by truck.

Anyone know where 412 is? Still at Mannington in Salem? Just curious-


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:21 pm 

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EDM wrote:
Not so re: friction bearings. The late 412 came from Ball in Cinniminson on it's own wheels, although all three came from out of state by truck.

Anyone know where 412 is? Still at Mannington in Salem? Just curious-


Local moves are a possible exception if you have the right "connections". No major railroad in the US today will move a 44ton any significant distance on its own wheels. They move by truck as you said.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:30 pm 

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The General Electric owners' manual limits their 44 Ton locos to 35 m.p.h. unless the motor pinion gears are removed. Some railroads require an expensive special train if the speed limit is too low. When Tyburn RR had ConRail move No. 400 from Lancaster to Fairless in the early 1990s, Conrail's limit was 30 m.p.h., so we escaped the extra charge.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:38 pm 

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I might be really interested in those GE B-B Trucks for a friend. Contact me off list please if anyone has any information.

michael.thomas@gvtrail.com

Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: SRNJ scrapping locomotives
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:53 am 

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OK. Let me clarify my statement. They tried to dispose of these before with no takers because they had friction bearings. It had nothing to do with how they could be moved.

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 Post subject: Re: SRNJ scrapping locomotives
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:20 pm 

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Are they getting rid of all the 44 tonners?


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