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 Post subject: Cornwall & Lebanon Railroad #12 --- Baldwin 24" Gauge 4-4-0
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:29 pm 

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I am looking for some more information on this little 4-4-0 and the railroad in general, such as specs, plans, etc. on the locomotive.

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Cody Muse


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 Post subject: Re: Cornwall & Lebanon Railroad #12 --- Baldwin 24" Gauge 4-
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:36 pm 

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Is this the one you are looking for?

10100 24” 10x14 33 4-4-0 5/1890 (SC) 8-14C-35
Built for-
Cornwall & Lebanon –for-Mount Gretna Narrow Gauge #12

Check the DeGolyer Library.


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 Post subject: Re: Cornwall & Lebanon Railroad #12 --- Baldwin 24" Gauge 4-
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:42 pm 

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The Mt. Gretna Narrow Gauge RR was in the vicinity of, but completely separate from, the Cornwall and Lebanon. This is for all functional purposes an amusement park ride versus an iron ore hauler. Internet searches should tell you more.

The three Baldwin 4-4-0s built for the line were the only two-foot-gauge 4-4-0s built for an American operation.

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 Post subject: Re: Cornwall & Lebanon Railroad #12 --- Baldwin 24" Gauge 4-
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I believe she's the prototype for the Bachmann On30 model. It's a funky little beast.

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 Post subject: Re: Cornwall & Lebanon Railroad #12 --- Baldwin 24" Gauge 4-
PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:30 am 

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For the sake of being picky these were not the only American built 24" gauge 4-4-0s for US operations. Crown Metal built several for use in the US.


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 Post subject: Re: Cornwall & Lebanon Railroad #12 --- Baldwin 24" Gauge 4-
PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:36 pm 

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Thanks for all the replies. The DeGolyer Library didn't come up with anything... I do think the Bachmann ON30 model does look VERY close, I think the biggest difference is that the Bachmann model has a boiler that goes clear through the cab. The original did not. I have seen the Crown locomotives before, they are very interesting.

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 Post subject: Re: Cornwall & Lebanon Railroad #12 --- Baldwin 24" Gauge 4-
PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:35 pm 

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Try looking here:

http://digitalcollections.smu.edu/cdm/s ... 32/rec/591

You should find the spec sheets.


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 Post subject: Re: Cornwall & Lebanon Railroad #12 --- Baldwin 24" Gauge 4-
PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:43 pm 

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John T wrote:
For the sake of being picky these were not the only American built 24" gauge 4-4-0s for US operations. Crown Metal built several for use in the US.


The typical snide reply would be that the Crown Metal products wouldn't count, as they were built for amusement excursion operations rather than commercial transportation enterprises.

And that would normally be the distinction. The Mount Gretna Narrow Gauge RR, however, MIGHT hold a distinction of being among the first amusement excursion rail lines built in the U.S., as it carried no freight, only passengers to the top of Mt. Governor Dick.

So............. whatever!

Incidentally, for the 1995 NRHS Convention in Lancaster, Pa., my associate Hale Adams and I, along with Mt. Gretna historian Jack Bitner, hosted a tour of the railroad's right of way, including surviving artifacts and remnants and a climb to the top of the observation tower at the top.


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 Post subject: Re: Cornwall & Lebanon Railroad #12 --- Baldwin 24" Gauge 4-
PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:38 pm 

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There is a nice bound 12 page booklet "The Mount Gretna Narrow Gauge Railroad 1889-1915 by Jack Bitner available from the Lebanon County Historical Society.

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 Post subject: Re: Cornwall & Lebanon Railroad #12 --- Baldwin 24" Gauge 4-
PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:56 pm 

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Cody Muse wrote:
I am looking for some more information on this little 4-4-0 and the railroad in general, such as specs, plans, etc. on the locomotive.

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Cody Muse

Cody ,
Here are the drawings the loco hope this helps .

Mr. Starr


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 Post subject: Re: Cornwall & Lebanon Railroad #12 --- Baldwin 24" Gauge 4-
PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:39 am 

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I found this in a clean out , I trust the article and photo's will be of use . Two would anyone happen to have a Track Plan for The CORNWALL and LEBANON RR Mt GRETNA NARROW GAUGE.

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 Post subject: Re: Cornwall & Lebanon Railroad #12 --- Baldwin 24" Gauge 4-
PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:13 pm 

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See here for track plan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Gre ... ge_Railway


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 Post subject: Re: Cornwall & Lebanon Railroad #12 --- Baldwin 24" Gauge 4-
PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:18 pm 

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Map of the roundhouse here.
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/54980376


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 Post subject: Re: Cornwall & Lebanon Railroad #12 --- Baldwin 24" Gauge 4-
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:45 pm 

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Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
The Mt. Gretna Narrow Gauge RR was in the vicinity of, but completely separate from, the Cornwall and Lebanon. This is for all functional purposes an amusement park ride versus an iron ore hauler. Internet searches should tell you more.

The three Baldwin 4-4-0s built for the line were the only two-foot-gauge 4-4-0s built for an American operation.

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Are they similar to the one mentioned ?

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 Post subject: Re: Cornwall & Lebanon Railroad #12 --- Baldwin 24" Gauge 4-
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:51 pm 

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John T wrote:
For the sake of being picky these were not the only American built 24" gauge 4-4-0s for US operations. Crown Metal built several for use in the US.

Do we have a count and Drawings for these?

Mr. Starr


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