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Author:  nathansixchime [ Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Railroad baggage cart restoration - where to start?

I own two Railway Express Agency baggage carts that make lovely yard decorations for my country home, but I'd like to restore them to the appropriate colors with new wood planks and a repainted REA sign.

At the Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society, we have a few other baggage carts of different styles and vintages - at least one of them is from the Pennsylvania Railroad and has a pretty warped frame and still has its rubber tires. It appears to have been painted in company Tuscan red. Another makes a dandy display table, though its frame has been repainted all green, with unpainted, bright colored wood. A cursory bit of research display a variety of approaches in painting colors and styles.

There are traction lovers, steam fans, diesel people and others - but where are all the baggage cart aficionados? Where can one find references for the proper paint colors and aesthetic features of these ubiquitous railroad props?

Were there any hard and fast rules or did baggage carts - like cabooses - earn their own unique colors and styles?

Thanks kindly,

Author:  car57 [ Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Railroad baggage cart restoration - where to start?

We (Wasatch) just finished one for the Castle Rock Museum. i had to attempt to color match the green from poor samples we found on the cart but in the end it was really guess work based on photographs. Turned out nicely and the customer was really happy.

Author:  ted66 [ Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Railroad baggage cart restoration - where to start?

Kelly,
All the carts I have seen were painted according to the railroad that owned it. Most seem to have been green. If you know the railroad that owned it or have one to match; I would check with the historical society for that railroad. Most of them publish magazines and have archives of photographs of their stations. And small er artifacts like baggage carts.

The work, like most historic preservation projects will not be cheap. The wood parts are usually hard wood like white oak, which is not cheap. If you want ot replace hard rubber tires; you will have to get into old car publications.

Ted Miles, Western Railway Museum

Author:  jayrod [ Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Railroad baggage cart restoration - where to start?

The REA carts were their standard green with red undercarriage. It depends on when what color the green was. The early dark green was Dulux 83-4474 and red was 83-909 (not much help). PPG/Ditzler 40386 is close. I don't have a PPG color for the red.

PRR carts were similar to, if not actually Tuscan DuPont 5505 probably Duco (I don't think I have the PPG number) all over except the oak beds were unpainted. "PENNSYLVANIA" was stenciled on the sides, possibly in the imitation gold/buff color, PPG 44158.

Does that help any?

Author:  nathansixchime [ Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Railroad baggage cart restoration - where to start?

Eric, Ted - yes, this is great! And thank you.

Author:  btrw [ Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Railroad baggage cart restoration - where to start?

I have a metal baggage wagon that is steel that I redid. The ends are metal vs wood. Several people said it wasn't built that way, but the Monticello Railway Museum has 5 of the same style and construction. It may be an Illinois area or Illinois railroad specific design. You can see photos of it on the Illinois Car Works Facebook page.

Fred Heilich

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