It is currently Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:54 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Passenger car found in house in NJ during demo needs a home
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:28 pm 

Joined: Sat May 07, 2016 1:12 am
Posts: 90
Saw this on fb. A wooden passenger car who knows how old. They are getting very hard to find, and it must be worth saving. Might be a good project for operations like Strasburg with historic wooden passenger cars.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... =832474965


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Passenger car found in house in NJ during demo needs a
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:38 pm 

Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:49 pm
Posts: 62
Location: Northern Illinois
Any idea on the identity of this car? Given the arched windows and the deck roof visible, it almost looks like it could be a streetcar body with the end platforms missing. Whatever it is, though, it doesn't look like there's much left to save.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Passenger car found in house in NJ during demo needs a
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:34 am 

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:34 pm
Posts: 2150
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Could be some good paint samples on that body.

_________________
Steven Harrod
Lektor
Danmarks Tekniske Universitet
Institut for Systemer, Produktion, og Ledelse


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Passenger car found in house in NJ during demo needs a
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:41 am 

Joined: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:41 am
Posts: 3406
Location: Inwood, W.Va.
I'm inclined to agree it's the remains of an old streetcar. Besides the windows and the deck roof, the car seems a bit small, particularly in width (based on the sizes of the people in the interior shots). It also appears to have curved lower sides, a common characteristic of trolleys, but much less common, as far as I know, on railroad equipment.

It even looks like a part of the roof to the platform, and a set of doors, with some door hardware, is visible in one of the photographs.

Some of it could be considered worth saving, as a "lesson" exhibit on car construction, though a full restoration to something operable would be very long and arduous. We know know anything about its identity, builder, or a lot of other details.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Passenger car found in house in NJ during demo needs a
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:09 am 

Joined: Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:05 pm
Posts: 125
The lower sides don't look curved enough to me to be a streetcar. I'm not on FB so I don't know where in Jersey, but it looks more like a 9th Ave Elevated car to me. If so it could date to around 1870. https://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/The_9th_ ... ds_Shuttle

_________________
G.
______________________________________
Radio crackles - "What the #^(& did we just hit, over?"


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Passenger car found in house in NJ during demo needs a
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:33 am 

Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:49 pm
Posts: 62
Location: Northern Illinois
TrainDetainer wrote:
The lower sides don't look curved enough to me to be a streetcar. I'm not on FB so I don't know where in Jersey, but it looks more like a 9th Ave Elevated car to me. If so it could date to around 1870. https://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/The_9th_ ... ds_Shuttle

I hadn't considered that rapid transit cars had deck roofs too - it certainly could be one. Either way, though, deck roofs were a characteristic found almost solely on electric cars.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Passenger car found in house in NJ during demo needs a
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:11 am 

Joined: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:31 am
Posts: 498
Can someone save and repost the photos here?

Thanks


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Passenger car found in house in NJ during demo needs a
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:57 am 

Joined: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:41 am
Posts: 3406
Location: Inwood, W.Va.
6-18003 wrote:
Can someone save and repost the photos here?

Thanks

Let's see if this will work.

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Passenger car found in house in NJ during demo needs a
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:02 pm 

Joined: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:41 am
Posts: 3406
Location: Inwood, W.Va.
Looks like it did!!

Any other thoughts on the possible origin of this car?


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Passenger car found in house in NJ during demo needs a
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:00 pm 

Joined: Sat May 07, 2016 1:12 am
Posts: 90
That makes me think, what else survived other then the body? Frame, trucks, etc under the car? That would help determine identity and what could be done with it.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Passenger car found in house in NJ during demo needs a
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:03 pm 

Joined: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:31 am
Posts: 498
Looks like a trolley to me. I can't get a window count with the way the photos are angled.
This trolley from Keyport NJ came up in a quick search.

Image


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Passenger car found in house in NJ during demo needs a
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:21 pm 

Joined: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:31 am
Posts: 498
I'm leaning towards a 1900~ Laclede


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Passenger car found in house in NJ during demo needs a
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:27 pm 

Joined: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:31 am
Posts: 498
This is Colorado Springs #59, a 1901 Laclede. Note the short panel on the leading end of the platform.

Image


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Passenger car found in house in NJ during demo needs a
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:37 pm 

Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:49 pm
Posts: 62
Location: Northern Illinois
In the comments section on Facebook, Frank Hicks has identified the carbody as a Trenton streetcar, Built by Brill either in 1911 or 1914. A link to what the car would have looked like: http://newdavesrailpix.com/odds/nj/htm/trt01.htm
Backing this up is evidence in one of the pictures, where a "2xx", possibly "26x" or 28x" can be seen under the paint (these Trenton streetcars were numbered in the 200s.)


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Passenger car found in house in NJ during demo needs a
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:04 pm 

Joined: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:31 am
Posts: 498
Frank would know. She's missing a lot but I assume she is the only Trenton car left.


Offline
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


 Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], KevinM, Majestic-12 [Bot], MEC_557 and 56 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: