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 Post subject: Re: Kansas City Southern- Surving Passenger Equipment
PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:17 pm 

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List entry removed for Pullman Standard 14-4 Sleeper #45 “Arthur Stilwell”, then AMTRAK #2521. Car was purchased by Tom Johnson of the Branson Scenic Railroad at an Amtrak auction. Car was stored in the Kansas City area until it was scrapped after being severely vandalized. Trucks were salvaged and will be used in the restoration of observation car Good Cheer.

List entries updated for Pullman Standard 14-4 Sleeper “Stuart Knott” and Pullman Standard 14-4 Sleeper #44 “Colonel Fordyce”.

Thanks goes out to Tom Johnson of the Branson Scenic Railroad for the information regarding these three cars

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 Post subject: Re: Kansas City Southern- Surving Passenger Equipment
PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:47 pm 

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Does anyone have good contact info for the Railroad Museum of Long Island? I’ve tried their contact email on their website, but haven’t had any luck. I’m trying to nail down the last few chair cars that went to the Long Island RR. I have a feeling they were scrapped as most of the others were. Any other reliable sources would be most welcome. I’m just about done with this project. Thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: Kansas City Southern- Surviving Passenger Equipment
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:34 pm 

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I have just about exhausted my resources in search of updates for the equipment on the list. Most of the information is now current. I am still waiting for replies from a few sources, but I’m not hopeful (one of them is UP). I will continue to update the list located on the first page of this thread as information comes in. Many thanks go out to the individuals, companies, and organizations that have provided information in support of this effort. It is greatly appreciated. The most current version of this list (2/5/18) has been submitted to the Kansas City Southern Historical Society and their archive keepers, Waren and Tillie Caileff. I will continue to monitor this thread for responses and welcome updated information. Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Kansas City Southern- Surving Passenger Equipment
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:19 pm 

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Mount Royal wrote:
Does anyone have good contact info for the Railroad Museum of Long Island? I’ve tried their contact email on their website, but haven’t had any luck. I’m trying to nail down the last few chair cars that went to the Long Island RR. I have a feeling they were scrapped as most of the others were. Any other reliable sources would be most welcome. I’m just about done with this project. Thanks.


Hello Randy, I am an active member of RMLI and I can tell you only one of the original 16 KCS coaches sold to the Long Island is around today. The MTA did a "house cleaning" in the mid 70s and the coaches were scrapped along with other second hands. They were by far some of the most comfortable coaches ever operated by the railroad. That said LIRR #8564, ex-KCS #262 is still kicking at the Midland Railway Historical Association in Kansas privately owned R. Bryan.


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 Post subject: Re: Kansas City Southern- Surving Passenger Equipment
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:16 pm 

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Cameron Wolk wrote:
Mount Royal wrote:
Does anyone have good contact info for the Railroad Museum of Long Island? I’ve tried their contact email on their website, but haven’t had any luck. I’m trying to nail down the last few chair cars that went to the Long Island RR. I have a feeling they were scrapped as most of the others were. Any other reliable sources would be most welcome. I’m just about done with this project. Thanks.


Hello Randy, I am an active member of RMLI and I can tell you only one of the original 16 KCS coaches sold to the Long Island is around today. The MTA did a "house cleaning" in the mid 70s and the coaches were scrapped along with other second hands. They were by far some of the most comfortable coaches ever operated by the railroad. That said LIRR #8564, ex-KCS #262 is still kicking at the Midland Railway Historical Association in Kansas privately owned R. Bryan.



Thanks! I added this one to the list when I spoke with the GM at the Midland about an RPO. Entry as follows....

ACF 60 seat Chair Car #262, originally- 246. Later- LIRR 8564 (8/1968), SHRHS- 1976. 1986- owned by Ross Bryan, 2000- donated to the Midland in Baldwin City, KS. Reported to be poor condition by A. Kinsley, GM of the Midland as of 12/15/2017.

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 Post subject: Re: Kansas City Southern- Surviving Passenger Equipment
PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:16 am 

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List entries deleted for cars #263-266 and #261. These cars were ACF 60 seat chair cars that were sold to the Long Island Railroad in the early 70's after KCS discontinued passenger services. All of these cars were scrapped in LIRR’s Corona Yard upon retirement. Only one of the ACF chair cars survived the LIRR and remains on the list. Thanks goes out to D. Fisher, M. Boland, and E. Koehler for the information.

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 Post subject: Re: Kansas City Southern- Surviving Passenger Equipment
PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:15 pm 

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List entry updated for PS 14-4 sleeper “Stuart Knott”. There are plans for this car’s return to service later this year. Thanks goes out to owner Tom McOwen for the update.

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