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 Post subject: ET&WNC Excursion car #11, WHAT HAPPENED?!
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 12:42 am 

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Okay, I think It's clear that I am a BIG fan of both the ET&WNC Railroad and the Tweetsie Railroad in Blowing Rock, NC. Part of Tweetsie Railroad's original consist was Excursion Car #11: Image (It's the car in the back there.) However, there's a bit of an issue: What happened to it? From What I can note, It's not in Tweetsie's possession anymore, and there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about where the coach went after leaving Tweetsie, and I can't find anything at all! Can I have some help here?

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 Post subject: Re: ET&WNC Excursion car #11, WHAT HAPPENED?!
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I searched all kinds of keywords, and I could not find any reference to a restoration of a Tweetsie passenger car.

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 Post subject: Re: ET&WNC Excursion car #11, WHAT HAPPENED?!
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 9:01 am 

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softwerkslex wrote:
I searched all kinds of keywords, and I could not find any reference to a restoration of a Tweetsie passenger car.

Interesting.

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 Post subject: Re: ET&WNC Excursion car #11, WHAT HAPPENED?!
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softwerkslex wrote:
I searched all kinds of keywords, and I could not find any reference to a restoration of a Tweetsie passenger car.
ET&WNC Combine #15 is being restored at the North Carolina Transportation Museum in Spencer.


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 Post subject: Re: ET&WNC Excursion car #11, WHAT HAPPENED?!
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 2:12 pm 
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The excursion car was scrapped and burned at Tweetsie RR in Blowing Rock several years ago. Their former EBT coach rides on its trucks now, I've heard.
Combine #15 is being restored at Spencer.

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 Post subject: Re: ET&WNC Excursion car #11, WHAT HAPPENED?!
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 3:14 pm 

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The excursion car was scrapped a long time ago. Probably at least 30 years ago.

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 Post subject: Re: ET&WNC Excursion car #11, WHAT HAPPENED?!
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 5:59 pm 

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p51 wrote:
The excursion car was scrapped and burned at Tweetsie RR in Blowing Rock several years ago. Their former EBT coach rides on its trucks now, I've heard.
Combine #15 is being restored at Spencer.


Is Combine #15 being restored for the Tweetsie operation? Or is it part of the Spencer Museum?


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 Post subject: Re: ET&WNC Excursion car #11, WHAT HAPPENED?!
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Wasn't there another ETWNC passenger car that survived that became a restaurant or something ?

shame the 4-6-0 #11 wasn't saved and donated to Johnson city. Apparently that came very close to happening.


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 Post subject: Re: ET&WNC Excursion car #11, WHAT HAPPENED?!
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 11:20 pm 

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Having talked to a couple of folk who have either worked at Tweetsie, or are in the know Tweetsie fans, I believe the metal parts of the excursion car are still on the Tweetsie property behind the shop. There are, however, no plans to rebuild the car from the bits & pieces.

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 Post subject: Re: ET&WNC Excursion car #11, WHAT HAPPENED?!
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 2:50 pm 
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CA1 wrote:
Wasn't there another ETWNC passenger car that survived that became a restaurant or something ?

Coach 23 became the Tweetsie Diner at Newland, NC. It was out of business when I saw it at the age of 11 in 1981.
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It burned down a few years later.

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 Post subject: Re: ET&WNC Excursion car #11, WHAT HAPPENED?!
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 11:39 pm 

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Lee is correct about #23. One more sister of #23 survived for a few years (not sure if it was #22 or #24?), and was supposed to be brought to the site of the Doe River Gorge Playland (Hillbilly World). I have not seen photos of it there, but supposedly it, too, was burned. Since I go there to help the camp there keep their track & equipment in shape, I would love to know where its last site was, as I have wondered if any metal parts survived. It would be fun to go over the area with a metal detector, but we have no clue where it was. Also, much of the site has been re-graded, so its location may have been buried over the years.

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 Post subject: Re: ET&WNC Excursion car #11, WHAT HAPPENED?!
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 7:11 pm 

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Contacted Tweetsie Railroad about my question, and apparently, it was converted into one of their current excursion cars, but it's been so long they can't remember which one!

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 Post subject: Re: ET&WNC Excursion car #11, WHAT HAPPENED?!
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 11:58 pm 

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Sadly, it is not true about "conversion" into another car. Not sure who you talked to, but all of their excursion cars are built on extended ex-EBT hopper car frames, which can be confirmed by looking underneath them. Their ex-EBT coach #5 is currently riding on ET&WNC excursion car #11's trucks.

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 Post subject: Re: ET&WNC Excursion car #11, WHAT HAPPENED?!
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 11:59 am 

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Was coach 23 one of those purchased from EBT as well?....Kind of looks like the EBT #8.


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 Post subject: Re: ET&WNC Excursion car #11, WHAT HAPPENED?!
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 1:44 pm 
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Was coach 23 one of those purchased from EBT as well?....Kind of looks like the EBT #8.

No, this coach was sold off when they got rid of their passenger coaches when the excursions ended. Later, realizing their error, they bought coaches from a New England line for the WW2 commuter trains to/from the rayon mills in Elizabethton.

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