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 Post subject: Re: Zinc Plating
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:39 am 

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Having run a 1940s hbm, I can only imagine what a pleasure a cnc version would be. I am almost surprised that you guys dont have one in the shop there, but considering how large they are and the cost of tooling it makes sense to ship it out to a local shop that has a duplicate capability.


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 Post subject: Re: Zinc Plating
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:42 am 

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DWH wrote:
I am almost surprised that you guys dont have one in the shop there,


We do have an HBM, but it certainly isn't a CNC machine with 130" plus of X axis travel!


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 Post subject: Re: Zinc Plating
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:55 pm 

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Kelly Anderson wrote:
DWH wrote:
I am almost surprised that you guys dont have one in the shop there,


We do have an HBM, but it certainly isn't a CNC machine with 130" plus of X axis travel!


That sounds like a monster to use. Were any finishing operations required on other machines? I would imagine with the right tooling and workholding they could do this in just a few major operations on the hbm.

My goal is to one day have machines large enough that I need clamps like that.


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 Post subject: Re: Zinc Plating
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:37 pm 

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My goal is to one day have machines large enough that I need clamps like that.


You know it's getting semi serious when you need a forklift to move your toolboxes.

You know it's really serious when you need a forklift to move your tools.

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 Post subject: Re: Zinc Plating
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:31 am 

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DWH wrote:
Were any finishing operations required on other machines?

We saved the tapered knuckle pin fits for ourselves. Other than that, polishing, corner rounding, making brasses and their associated hardware, and oil cups were what we had on our plate.


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 Post subject: Re: Zinc Plating
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:16 am 

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Kelly,
I assume the contract shop ran finishing passes with a ball nose end mill (or the indexable variant) after those photos were taken, right?

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 Post subject: Re: Zinc Plating
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:57 pm 

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Exactly.


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 Post subject: Re: Zinc Plating
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:48 pm 

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rem1028 wrote:
Hi All,

Looking at the facebook page for the restoration of Florida East Coast # 148, new side rods are shown as having just been cast for the engine. Someone asked what was wrong with the old rods and it was answered that they had been zinc plated while the engine was overhauled at the New Hope and Ivyland in the 70's, and if not done properly, the zinc plating could cause fatigue cracking from making the metal too brittle. If this is the case, why would the zinc plating have been done in the first place? Just to prevent corrosion?

Thanks,
John


While I cannot answer definitely on zinc plating used on the FEC 148, Hot Dip Galvanizing was performed on DL&W 565 while at New Hope, work being done by Menair-Fetzer. The 565 was the project done immediately after completing the 148.

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 Post subject: Re: Zinc Plating
PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:57 am 

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Very revealing photographs of a 21st century machining operation.

I'm curious about the "buffer" material used between the clamps and the work pictured.

The photos illustrate an example of using something other than metal (such as brass/copper/etc.)
to support a very large object. It's obviously a non-metallic protective shim [so to speak].

What is the material -identity- being used to protect the surface of the part being machined?

John


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 Post subject: Re: Zinc Plating
PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:47 pm 

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Sorry for the delay. That orange material is left over plastic shim stock.

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 Post subject: Re: Zinc Plating
PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:57 pm 

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Very good Kelly. Thanks for the product URL too.

John


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