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 Post subject: Re: Amtrak Surplus Rolling Stock Available, Incl. Last F40PH
PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:55 pm 
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Just got word and photos confirming all but one of these F40PHs are going to Larry's truck and Electric most likely for all thoes parts that can be used for GP and SD locomotives. Did any one even TRY to save them? IRM? Anyone? 409 is going to BUGX. I bet if these were foamer favorites like an RS3 there would be three threads on here and many inquiries but for the locomotive that moved America and set the standard passenger railroading the last part of the 20th century... NAH


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 Post subject: Re: Amtrak Surplus Rolling Stock Available, Incl. Last F40PH
PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:27 pm 

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Perhaps these 1970s passenger engines will fall into the category "I guess we should have preserved one in close-to-original condition, but actually nobody cares."

The turboliners, and a lot of other newer equipment, seems to fall into this category.

I guess it is not too late to try to save a shell from one of these engines, to maybe repower later. But who might go to all that effort?
I thought this was one path that might have had potential:
http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35020


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 Post subject: Re: Amtrak Surplus Rolling Stock Available, Incl. Last F40PH
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Railroad.net makes it sound a bit more promising for the LTEX units. A lot of 4 axle EMD's escape there alive, unlike the SD's.


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 Post subject: Re: Amtrak Surplus Rolling Stock Available, Incl. Last F40PH
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Not that we should be complacent but...

Some are running on heritage lines.
Some are in regular service.
Three are preserved- two at opposite ends of the country.

And to top it off, we can barely preserve the best of what we have much less what continues to “wait.”

Joshua


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 Post subject: Re: Amtrak Surplus Rolling Stock Available, Incl. Last F40PH
PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:23 pm 

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Just got word and photos confirming all but one of these F40PHs are going to Larry's truck and Electric most likely for all thoes parts that can be used for GP and SD locomotives. Did any one even TRY to save them? IRM? Anyone? 409 is going to BUGX. I bet if these were foamer favorites like an RS3 there would be three threads on here and many inquiries but for the locomotive that moved America and set the standard passenger railroading the last part of the 20th century... NAH




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 Post subject: Re: Amtrak Surplus Rolling Stock Available, Incl. Last F40PH
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:09 am 
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o anderson wrote:
Perhaps these 1970s passenger engines will fall into the category "I guess we should have preserved one in close-to-original condition, but actually nobody cares."

The turboliners, and a lot of other newer equipment, seems to fall into this category.

I guess it is not too late to try to save a shell from one of these engines, to maybe repower later. But who might go to all that effort?
I thought this was one path that might have had potential:
http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35020

Last time I saw some F40PH shells (shells is an overstatement the only body parts left was the cab) for sale the asking price was $25k a lot of small locomotive builders the tailor their business a smaller railroads use the frames of old units and build a new unit on top of them. Ironically $25k is what Amtrak was asking for them in the 2000s.


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 Post subject: Re: Amtrak Surplus Rolling Stock Available, Incl. Last F40PH
PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:56 pm 

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http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/20 ... nd-its-p40 (behind pay wall):

"Amtrak’s Wilmington and Bear, Del., shops recently disposed of the last for the F40PHR units [sic] for Amtrak and has sent the first P40-8 to scrap that was not wrecked. The units are headed to Larry’s truck Electric in Lordstown, Ohio, where they are expected to be parted out by the locomotive dealer."


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 Post subject: Re: Amtrak Surplus Rolling Stock Available, Incl. Last F40PH
PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:33 pm 

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I last saw the recent locos at Delaware with the AEM-7’s. With the recent purgings, how many AEM units are left? I saw in a railfan roster that 13 are left as of April 1st 2019. The last time I was at Bear, I believe I saw more than 13. Were more scrapped since the first scrappings?


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 Post subject: Re: Amtrak Surplus Rolling Stock Available, Incl. Last F40PH
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:03 pm 

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10 Amtrak locomotives dead in tow CSX freight.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cJG-JUpEgs


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 Post subject: Re: Amtrak Surplus Rolling Stock Available, Incl. Last F40PH
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:37 pm 

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http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/20 ... rom-amtrak

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The Branson Scenic Railway has acquired three cars from Amtrak in its latest sale of retired equipment. They are Amtrak baggage cars 1204 and 1245, and dining car 8521. The two baggage cars were built by Budd in 1953 for Santa Fe as Nos. 3533 and 3534 respectively. They were assigned to general service on Santa Fe streamliners.

Dining car 8521, ex-Amtrak 8380(2), was originally Southern Railway 3306, a 48-seat diner built by Budd in 1949 for the Crescent, Southern’s flagship passenger train between Washington and New Orleans. It was also used on the Royal Palm, Southerner, and Tennessean services. It was acquired by Amtrak in 1979 when the railroad turned over its Southern Crescent to Amtrak and numbered 8880(2). It was rebuilt to head end power and numbered 8521 in 1984. In 2012 it received a major overhaul; it was retired in 2015. . . .

The two baggage cars were acquired for parts and storage.


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 Post subject: Re: Amtrak Surplus Rolling Stock Available, Incl. Last F40PH
PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:27 pm 

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Copied and pasted from AOTT facebook:

Next Amtrak bid list is out...

CAR # DESCRIPTION LOCATION BID PRICE:
#1159 1953 Heritage Baggage Car Beech Grove, IN
#1760 1950 Heritage Bag-Converted Coach Beech Grove, IN
#1761 1953 Heritage Bag-Converted Coach Beech Grove, IN

CAR # DESCRIPTION LOCATION BID PRICE
#1 1996 GE P42 Diesel Beech Grove, IN
#128 2000 GE P42 Diesel Beech Grove, IN
#141 2000 GE P42 Diesel Beech Grove, IN
#80 1997 GE P42 Diesel Beech Grove, IN
#178 2001 GE P42 Diesel Beech Grove, IN
#102 1997 GE P42 Diesel Beech Grove, IN
#809 1993 GE P42 Diesel Beech Grove, IN
#823 1993 GE P42 Diesel Beech Grove, IN

CAR # DESCRIPTION LOCATION BID PRICE:
#795 1950 SW1000 Loco Switcher Los Angeles, CA

CAR # DESCRIPTION LOCATION BID PRICE:
#10031 1955 Heritage Dome Lounge Car Beech Grove, IN

CAR # DESCRIPTION LOCATION BID PRICE:
#8531 1956 Heritage TMI Diner Beech Grove, IN (built as: CB&Q 4737 "Silver Bit")

#1232 1953 Heritage Baggage Car Bear, DE


#15715 1952 Army Flat Car Bear, DE
#15720 1952 Army Flat Car Bear, DE
#15724 1952 Army Flat Car Bear, DE
#15666 N/A Year Army Flat Car Bear, DE
#15698 1954 Army Flat Car Bear, DE #16312 N/A Year Electronic Ride Car Bear, DE
#15188 1960 Electronic Traction Tower Car Bear, DE
#15193 1958 Electronic Traction Tower Car Bear, DE


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 Post subject: Re: Amtrak Surplus Rolling Stock Available, Incl. Last F40PH
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:03 am 

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Aren't the #800s P40s not P42s?


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 Post subject: Re: Amtrak Surplus Rolling Stock Available, Incl. Last F40PH
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PMC wrote:
CAR # DESCRIPTION LOCATION BID PRICE:
#10031 1955 Heritage Dome Lounge Car Beech Grove, IN



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 Post subject: Re: Amtrak Surplus Rolling Stock Available, Incl. Last F40PH
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:11 pm 

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Something to remember about preserving what is considered recent equipment.

The EMD E-7 was the largest class of passenger diesel, counting A and B units; ONE is preserved, and PRR 5901 was saved primarily because it is PRR's first road diesel.

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 Post subject: Re: Amtrak Surplus Rolling Stock Available, Incl. Last F40PH
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:21 pm 

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o anderson wrote:
Perhaps these 1970s passenger engines will fall into the category "I guess we should have preserved one in close-to-original condition, but actually nobody cares." [/url]



Joshua K. Blay wrote:
Not that we should be complacent but...

Some are running on heritage lines.
Some are in regular service.
Three are preserved- two at opposite ends of the country.

And to top it off, we can barely preserve the best of what we have much less what continues to “wait.”

Joshua


So exactly how many bricks do we need to save? Wouldn't the money be better spent fixing up some of the rusting hulks that seem to lurk in the back lots of most museums or tourist railroads?


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