Final task of UP 4141 Nearing?

Richard Glueck · **Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:46 am

"I believe Dick Cheney was on the board of UP for a while, correct?"

So I've heard. Innuendo, of course.

WVNorthern · **Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:46 am

Although he wasn't president (he was campaigning for the office), Robert F. Kennedy's body was carried by a funeral train from New York City to Washington, DC in 1968.
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/photo ... ears-later

diningcartim · **Joined:** Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:34 pm **Posts:** 118

Richard Glueck wrote:

"I believe Dick Cheney was on the board of UP for a while, correct?"

So I've heard. Innuendo, of course.

Yes, he was on the UP Board of Directors. He resigned in 2000 when he became the Republican nominee for VP.

He had several members of his family that work for the UP. I have heard him talking about an uncle (I think) who was a cook on a UP MOW train.

NS 3322 · **Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:08 pm

Atkinson_Railroad wrote:

Noting the schedule has been established for Bush's train, I wonder if the specific funeral route has been determined etc.

NS 3322 · **Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:13 pm

From the UP Press Release the consist:
https://www.up.com/cs/groups/public/@up ... onsist.pdf

(All stabled in Council Bluffs)

207, 208 and 2066- Power Cars
CITY OF PORTLAND- Dome Diner
CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO- Dome Lounge Car
THE COUNCIL BLUFFS- Baggage Recreation Car
LONE STAR- Business Car
HARRIMAN- Dome Lounge Car
OVERLAND- Diner
PORTOLA- Deluxe Sleeper
CITY OF DENVER- Diner
WALTER DEAN- Dome Lounge Car
KENEFICK- Business Car

Kelly Anderson · **Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:20 pm

What make and model is this engine? My spotting skills for modern diesels are non-existent.

jayl1 · **Joined:** Sun Aug 22, 2004 2:47 pm **Posts:** 9

I believe it is an EMD SD70ACe.

70000 · **Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:22 pm

The wider UP "Media Kit" concerning the funeral train actually has a lot of interesting items on it...
https://www.up.com/media/media_kit/bush41/index.htm

Zak Lybrand · **Joined:** Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:57 am **Posts:** 186

I'm not much of one to go out and sit trackside for a day, but this train seriously has me considering making the drive from Dallas to follow it. I wonder why funeral trains fell out of favor after the 60s.

Brian Norden · **Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:46 pm

Zak Lybrand wrote:

I wonder why funeral trains fell out of favor after the 60s.

The coming of Amtrak in 1971 might be the reason.

elueck · **Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:08 pm

At this moment, 4141 is parked in the yard in Spring, TX. 1943 (the Armed Services unit) is leading a second unit and is headed for Spring, with a 21 car consist which includes those cars in the UP release.

softwerkslex · **Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:09 pm

The Washington Post has a nice story and photo/video.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/an-echo-of-history-as-locomotive-4141-carries-george-hw-bush-to-his-final-resting-place/2018/12/02/03281518-f64e-11e8-8d64-4e79db33382f_story.html?utm_term=.4dd7212c133d

EJ Berry · **Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:33 pm

UP 4141 is an EMD SD70ACe. It is named for the late George H W Bush (President #41)

According to Bloomberg, Andrew H. Card is one of the Directors of UNP and had been Secretary of Transportation in the G H W Bush Administration and was later Chief of Staff to George W Bush, President #43.

Phil Mulligan

Bad Order · **Joined:** Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:16 pm **Posts:** 84

The posted list of cars on the train isn't right.

I ran a "train list" on it at work, and there are 21 cars....

NS 3322 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:24 pm

Bad Order wrote:

The posted list of cars on the train isn't right.

I ran a "train list" on it at work, and there are 21 cars....

My info is from the UP Press Release.

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