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 Post subject: Re: White Pass possibly acquiring new GE Locomotives
PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:16 am 

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Aaron F wrote:
The first engine was delivered to Skagway today.

Via WP&Y's Facebook page :https://www.facebook.com/134141213264664/posts/3129283290417093/

According to comments on this fb post these units weren't merely tacked on to an order by Qube in Australia, they are two demonstrators and two canceled units from an order of ten originally. The demonstrators, now 3000 & 3001, are being reworked at Mt. Vernon and Silvis, while 3002 & 3003 are the two cancelled units. One comment says the remaining two units of the order were cancelled "probably because they're the most unreliable locos qube have." We'll see if NRE can get the bugs out.


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 Post subject: Re: White Pass possibly acquiring new GE Locomotives
PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:46 pm 

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Nova55 wrote:
Also rumors popping up today that Durango & Silverton has in turn bought a pair of the DL535's from WP&Y.


No longer a rumor.


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 Post subject: Re: White Pass possibly acquiring new GE Locomotives
PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:51 pm 

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Crescent-Zephyr wrote:
Nova55 wrote:
Also rumors popping up today that Durango & Silverton has in turn bought a pair of the DL535's from WP&Y.


No longer a rumor.

Okay, I'll bite - Does that statement mean that Mr. Harper has acknowledged the purchase or does it mean the rumor has been debunked?

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 Post subject: Re: White Pass possibly acquiring new GE Locomotives
PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:00 pm 

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Meghan wrote:
Crescent-Zephyr wrote:
Nova55 wrote:
Also rumors popping up today that Durango & Silverton has in turn bought a pair of the DL535's from WP&Y.


No longer a rumor.

Okay, I'll bite - Does that statement mean that Mr. Harper has acknowledged the purchase or does it mean the rumor has been debunked?


You can read a D&SRR press release here:
http://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,393177


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 Post subject: Re: White Pass possibly acquiring new GE Locomotives
PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:49 pm 

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Here they are being loaded for transport along with a tie crane, Matt Cunningham photos. Two other units are going to D&S but have not yet been selected. I think D&S will be happier with 900 RPM Alco engines so long as they completely go through all of them.


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Note that as of the time I wrote this, one of the posts on NGDF indicated it was a response from the D&S CMO confirming the details.

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 Post subject: Re: White Pass possibly acquiring new GE Locomotives
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:37 am 

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Love these Alco's . Notice the rigging used to lift the locomotives? Absolutely superb. One longitudinal spreader bar attached to two crosswise spreaders with rigging from the ends down to the locomotive for a one crane pick . All of the wire rope ends have thimbles in them which is what you're supposed to have to get maximum safe lifting capacity. Without the wire rope thimbles ,you may lose up to 50% of capacity.

BTW - What do they weigh?


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 Post subject: Re: White Pass possibly acquiring new GE Locomotives
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:20 am 

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M Secco wrote:
Love these Alco's . Notice the rigging used to lift the locomotives? Absolutely superb. One longitudinal spreader bar attached to two crosswise spreaders with rigging from the ends down to the locomotive for a one crane pick . All of the wire rope ends have thimbles in them which is what you're supposed to have to get maximum safe lifting capacity. Without the wire rope thimbles ,you may lose up to 50% of capacity.

BTW - What do they weigh?

Here is one in the air, Randy Babcock photo. They weigh 167k lbs. according to this: https://oldeastie.com/compare.html


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 Post subject: Re: White Pass possibly acquiring new GE Locomotives
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:57 am 

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Wish it was a warm here in Illinois as it is in Alaska now.


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 Post subject: Re: White Pass possibly acquiring new GE Locomotives
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:30 am 
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They officially shut down all cruise, railroad, and bus activities for tourists for the entire year in Alaska.
This is going to be a pretty bad year for the White Pass.

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 Post subject: Re: White Pass possibly acquiring new GE Locomotives
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:43 pm 

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Hey PMC,
I'm more informed now because of the list you supplied and that last picture . Thanks. Without trucks ,107 may shed 60,000 ish lbs but guessing will get you in trouble. That crane is equipped with an integrated load cell system which not only tells the operator the weight being lifted but also keeps it from being overloaded.
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 Post subject: Re: White Pass possibly acquiring new GE Locomotives
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:30 pm 

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p51 wrote:
They officially shut down all cruise, railroad, and bus activities for tourists for the entire year in Alaska.
This is going to be a pretty bad year for the White Pass.


Do you have a link? Or what I should search for? That’s Terrible news :(


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 Post subject: Re: White Pass possibly acquiring new GE Locomotives
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:18 pm 
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Crescent-Zephyr wrote:
p51 wrote:
They officially shut down all cruise, railroad, and bus activities for tourists for the entire year in Alaska.
This is going to be a pretty bad year for the White Pass.


Do you have a link? Or what I should search for? That’s Terrible news :(

Plenty of stuff online about it, but I've seen it mentioned in multiple message boards.

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 Post subject: Re: White Pass possibly acquiring new GE Locomotives
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:56 pm 

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Crescent-Zephyr wrote:
Do you have a link? Or what I should search for? That’s Terrible news :(
From an April 16, 2020 Travel Weekly article:
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Princess Cruises and Holland America Line have canceled most of their 2020 Alaska sailings and all land products.
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Several factors played into why such a hot market became one of the first to see major cruise reductions this summer.

The biggest might be that because of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s no-sail order from U.S. ports until mid-July, combined with Canada’s restrictions on cruising through June, half of the Alaska cruise season was already lost. This has an outsize impact on Holland America and Princess because so much of their business includes land and cruise combinations.

“The shortened summer season has made it simply not viable to operate our [lodges, trains and buses] throughout Alaska,” Swartz said.

Holland America also cited the “complexities of starting up hotels, rail operations and motorcoach fleets for what is at best a mid-to-late restart of travel to Alaska.”

Link: Cruise ship exodus from Alaska cuts very deeply


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 Post subject: Re: White Pass possibly acquiring new GE Locomotives
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:02 pm 

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Oh I think I misunderstood... “they” are the cruise lines. I thought the state had closed down all railroad, motorcoach Tours, etc. that’s why I was asking for a link or how to search for it.


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