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 Post subject: CSX & Kentucky Heritage Steam - Ravenna Rail Revival
PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 11:36 pm 

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I'm honestly surprised that this hasn't yet been mentioned here - so I'll leave this in anticipation of an announcement on Saturday, 5/19...

"The Kentucky Steam Heritage Corporation and CSX Transportation invite you to join us as a guest to a community celebration and press conference as we announce the creation of a transformational regional project: The Kentucky Rail Heritage Center."

https://www.kentuckysteam.org/revival

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 Post subject: Re: CSX & Kentucky Heritage Steam - Ravenna Rail Revival
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 9:58 am 

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Any ideas on what will be announced?

Kinda odd everyone is so quiet and no comments on this.


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 12:27 pm 

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There's lots of contextual clues at the link and the guest list.

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 12:50 pm 

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Well if I had to wager a guess just looking at the page, CSX is probably donating property (my guess is the old shop building) that will give 2716 a home and restoration base. But that brings up the question of getting it there and where to run 2716, because I was under the impression that CSX was still rather unfriendly to steam...

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 1:01 pm 

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daylight4449 wrote:
Well if I had to wager a guess just looking at the page, CSX is probably donating property (my guess is the old shop building) that will give 2716 a home and restoration base. But that brings up the question of getting it there and where to run 2716, because I was under the impression that CSX was still rather unfriendly to steam...


My question is - are there still any tracks in place from the yard to the shop (and inside the building as well - that could be rehabbed and put back into place? Or is it currently isolated and would need to have tracks re-laid/re-built?

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 1:02 pm 

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All good questions that will make watching their presentation very much worth it.


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 4:20 pm 

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bigjim4life wrote:
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My question is - are there still any tracks in place from the yard to the shop (and inside the building as well - that could be rehabbed and put back into place? Or is it currently isolated and would need to have tracks re-laid/re-built?


I imagine someone familiar with the area and Google Maps could figure that out.

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 Post subject: Re: CSX & Kentucky Heritage Steam - Ravenna Rail Revival
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 4:34 pm 

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Nice photo on the event page:

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/c24f ... 2225c9.jpg

Looks like a fairly modern facility. When was it closed?

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 Post subject: Re: CSX & Kentucky Heritage Steam - Ravenna Rail Revival
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 9:32 am 

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is this on the Cinn-Atl route that was listed as a potential line to be sold ?


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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 11:13 am 

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CA1 wrote:
is this on the Cinn-Atl route that was listed as a potential line to be sold ?


No, Ravenna is on the former EK Division of the L&N. The Division started at HK Tower in east Louisville, ran through Frankfort and Lexington to Winchester. At Winchester, it briefly joined the Cincinnati to Atlanta mainline before branching off at Patio Tower. The line then went southeast all the way to McRoberts, near Fleming-Neon. Now the line connects via a coal branch with a C&O coal branch.

The Louisville to Winchester portion is now operated by RJ Corman as part of their Central Kentucky Lines. The portion from Patio Tower to Hazard has been out of service for several years and used for car storage.

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 Post subject: Re: CSX & Kentucky Heritage Steam - Ravenna Rail Revival
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 6:20 pm 

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The Ravenna facility is fairly new. It was built in the 1980s I believe, and closed in 2001. Everything is intact except for the tracks, essentially. The yard office is the original L&N one.

Ravenna was home to the Big Emma’s for the L&N, which many might recall that 2716 was dressed up to look like a year or so ago. The “1992” number plate was on display today as well. It should also be noted that all of the Emma’s were scrapped.

For those unfamiliar with the area, Ravenna is about 20 or so miles from the CC Subdivision mainline at Winchester, KY. The EK comes off at Patio Yard, runs to Ravenna and then on to Hazard. A crew would run Cincinnati-Ravenna or Corbin-Ravenna, where a crew change would occur for the run to Hazard. The line was only mothballed 2 years ago.

Also worth noting that CSX has recently filed to discontinue the signal system on the EK subdivision. There are several searchlights still intact, but also many newer SafeTrans signals. This was a CTC, concrete ties, welded rail, coal super highway.


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 Post subject: Re: CSX & Kentucky Heritage Steam - Ravenna Rail Revival
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 7:18 pm 

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Rick, here is our updated press release with comments from Mitch McConnell and Andy Barr. You can updated your post and delete mine when you see this. Thanks!

PRESS RELEASE

Kentucky Steam Heritage Corp. to Partner with CSX In Creating Kentucky Rail Heritage Center

Irvine, KY – May 19, 2018 – The Kentucky Steam Heritage Corp. (KSHC), a not-for-profit rail preservation group, announced the intent to purchase nearly 50 acres of former rail yard property from CSX Transportation to establish a rail-based tourist and community development center. KSHC plans to establish a multi-use facility on the site of CSX’s retired Ravenna Car Shop, creating an immersive, hands-on experience for tourists and tradespeople alike.

The historic yard office building, track, and a modern-era railcar facility will be included in the transaction and will be used to showcase the rehabilitation and operation of world-renown steam locomotive Chesapeake and Ohio 2716 and other regionally-relevant equipment. The purchase of the property and facilities is the first of many steps on the path to achieving KSHC’s vision for the Kentucky Rail Heritage Center.

“The model for this campus is not that of a traditional museum,” said Chris Campbell, president of the Lexington (KY)-based charity. “The Kentucky Rail Heritage Center will be a destination where people can experience the operation of historic rail equipment, take their dog for a walk, and get a bite to eat at a local restaurant, all on the same visit,” he added. “We can’t thank CSX enough for providing the opportunity to creatively infuse the local and regional economy.”

KSHC has worked closely with its community, state and private partners over the past several years to rally support for this endeavor and to gain key proponents in Washington, D.C.

“Today’s announcement is an important step toward preserving the unique culture of our Commonwealth,” said Senator Mitch McConnell. “Together, the Kentucky Steam Heritage Corporation, CSX, local leaders, and state officials are reviving this retired facility with opportunity for a new generation. As Kentuckians’ economic needs adapt and change, it is incumbent upon each of us to remember our rich history. Visitors to this facility will have the chance to learn about the vital rail lines that have helped Kentucky fuel American prosperity for generations.”

U.S. Congressman Andy Barr echoed Sen. McConnell’s enthusiasm for the project and its impact on Eastern Kentucky.
“Ravenna’s railroad history is one to be recognized and celebrated, as it brought tremendous economic growth to Estill County,” said Rep. Barr. “The Kentucky Steam Heritage Corporation is doing just that by developing the Kentucky Rail Heritage Center. I applaud Kentucky Steam Heritage Corporation for their leadership in garnering community support for these restoration efforts and I appreciate their dedication to sharing the rich industrial history of Ravenna with the rest of the country and world.”
KSHC is partnering with Estill County Schools to establish a technical skills training component to the rail-themed campus, which will enable vocational students to practice modern trades on historic equipment. The initial railroad property purchase is the first milestone on the road to revitalize Ravenna, a process that will require continued support, diligent fundraising, federal grants, and more land transactions. This will allow KSHC to fully realize its long-term vision for the multi-use campus, which would give the community a meeting and event space, along with rail excursions that attract visitors to the area.

"I definitely see many positives for Estill County and the entire region. I look forward to working together with Kentucky Steam Heritage on innovative educational opportunities for the good of our students and the entire community." said Jeff Saylor, superintendent of Estill County Schools.

Other community leaders also echoed Saylor’s optimism.

"This is a breath of fresh air for Estill County” said Joe Crawford, director of the Estill Development Alliance. “This gives us a great opportunity to work hand-in-hand regionally with our cousins in nearby Eastern Kentucky counties. The fact that this project builds on our own history and heritage to help us progress makes it all that much sweeter. Economic development, education, tourism development, job creation, heritage preservation - it's a win on every front. We look forward to a long and successful relationship with CSX and KSHC."

CSX has been working closely with KSHC and community leaders for over a year to help establish this unique endeavor.

“This is a win-win transaction that allows CSX to focus on our core business, while bringing new economic opportunities to Eastern Kentucky through CSX’s retired Ravenna Car Shop,” said Shantel Davis, vice president of real estate and facilities for CSX. “It’s an honor to work with organizations like KSHC to make a positive, meaningful impact on the community and to move our company forward.”

KSHC anticipates taking possession of the property in mid-summer 2018, and will immediately begin work on the project.

“Fundraising is our first and most important aim,” said KSHC Vice President Chad Harople. “Without significant investment, this will take time to get going. But, with proper funding, we envision being up and running by late 2018.”

Harpole says that the group hopes to raise $300,000 in the first three months of the project, and $500,000 by years’ end. Much of the work revolves around improving rail infrastructure on the grounds. Contributions also will provide matches for federally-funded ARC grants that the project has already applied for.

“It's an incredible opportunity to attract federal grant dollars to Eastern Kentucky, and it’s all because of CSX’s generosity to get us in this position” Harpole added.

“This is just the beginning of what we hope will be a long and fruitful relationship with CSX.”

For more information, and to make a tax-deductible donation call 833-KY-STEAM (833-597-8326) or visit them on the web at http://www.kentuckysteam.org

Corporate sponsorships are also available.


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 Post subject: Re: CSX & Kentucky Heritage Steam - Ravenna Rail Revival
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 9:07 pm 

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It is very far ahead to suggest, but what other long term plans are being proposed for this wonderful project? Like wheels museum and Riverfront project are they planning a turntable and roundhouse or backshop? This whole project is very benefiticial and can be a haven for historic rail preservation groups looking for a refuge for their equipment. A partnership with local rail museums and groups would strengthen the whole local rail preservation industry. The 576 project and TVRR Museum will make great partnerships! So many possibilities with this opportunity.


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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 11:07 pm 

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It will be it’s own thing, but a steam revival is underway across the US. Congrats to everyone who thought outside the box for today’s announcement. Great plans and a well executed launch!

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 Post subject: Re: CSX & Kentucky Heritage Steam - Ravenna Rail Revival
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 1:04 am 

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My take away, maybe a little more short sighted than most, is that 2716 will have to travel CSX rails in order to get to Ravenna for restoration/operation.

Plus the quote "we are looking forward to a fruitful and long relationship with CSX."

Seems the impossible is becoming more and more possible with each day. Congratulations to all involved, seems like big steam may be finding a good home in KY/TN/VA.

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