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 Post subject: ASR 2100 - Big Staybolt Update
PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 3:38 pm 

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All,

See the last on the 2100 and the work on the firebox.
https://youtu.be/lNlT3r0WnVw

Thanks for the support! Please continue making your faithful contributions!

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Rob Gardner
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 Post subject: Re: ASR 2100 - Big Staybolt Update
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 1:18 am 

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Rob I have a few of your cab valve shut off handles from the conversion from coal to oil. Tom Payne left behind some parts of that locomotive at our locomotive rebuild facility in Tacoma. I was fortunate enough to have noticed those parts during a clean up and saved them. Unfortunately Tom paid something like $5,000 for 4 of these special hooks used to lift the locomotive off the ground. I tried to save those but the owner wouldn't allow it. I will be heading up to Ohio this Summer and will drop them off at your shop.


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 Post subject: Re: ASR 2100 - Big Staybolt Update
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2021 11:43 am 

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Tom,

That is great news. Thank you for thinking of us and keeping track of those valve handles. Looking forward to connecting with you this summer. I'll send you a PM to coordinate.

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 Post subject: Re: ASR 2100 - Big Staybolt Update
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2021 12:45 pm 

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I was interested in the comment about installing the staybolts with fillet welds..... it's been years since I had to deal with stay replacements, but are fillet welded stays now SOP? back then we had to do FP welds.... nice if regulations are following technological improvements from my POV.

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 Post subject: Re: ASR 2100 - Big Staybolt Update
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 9:26 pm 

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Hi Dave,
I wonder if the welder misspoke, being made nervous by the camera. If you look closely at the video portion of cleaning the firebox sheets it looks to me like those holes are countersunk for full-pen. mld


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 Post subject: Re: ASR 2100 - Big Staybolt Update
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 9:50 pm 

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Old monitor, new information. Still, official clarification would be nice. I recall Linn talking about Strasburg doing tests of fillet welded stays at a TRAIN conference about 25 years ago, very interesting.

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 Post subject: Re: ASR 2100 - Big Staybolt Update
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 11:00 pm 

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Dave wrote:
Old monitor, new information. Still, official clarification would be nice. I recall Linn talking about Strasburg doing tests of fillet welded stays at a TRAIN conference about 25 years ago, very interesting.

Agreed! There have been some quite spirited discussions concerning fillet weld....mld


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 Post subject: Re: ASR 2100 - Big Staybolt Update
PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 6:34 pm 

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Both filled and full penetration welds are permissible for welded staybolts. We are utilizing fillet welds...no chamfered holes in the sidesheets.

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 Post subject: Re: ASR 2100 - Big Staybolt Update
PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 8:24 pm 

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Thanks Rob! A direct answer from someone in authority is always appreciated....mld


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 Post subject: Re: ASR 2100 - Big Staybolt Update
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 12:09 pm 

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Tom F wrote:
Rob I have a few of your cab valve shut off handles from the conversion from coal to oil. Tom Payne left behind some parts of that locomotive at our locomotive rebuild facility in Tacoma...


The conversion to oil was done in St Thomas, ON. The work that was done in Tacoma was boiler work done by a boiler company from Seattle. They were boiler specialists, but of course they don't get a lot of steam locomotive work, so they were kind of unfamiliar with things in that regard.

So I'm not sure exactly what the parts were or where they would have come from. Possibly he did some further modifications to the oil burner system. Especially when it was first tried, changes weren't uncommon.


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