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 Post subject: Re: Operable Plymouth Locomotives at Museums/Tourist Railroa
PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:38 pm 

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The South Park Rail Society in Como, Colorado has a Plymouth 12 ton diesel/mechanical locomotive in service.

No. 5 is leased to the SPRS.

Photo shows No. 5 shortly after its arrival in Como on August 16, 2019.

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 Post subject: Re: Operable Plymouth Locomotives at Museums/Tourist Railroa
PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:10 pm 

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A wise man once told me that every tourist railroad needed a Plymouth and a center cab. I'd love to get my hands on a Plymouth 36" gauge locomotive, but they seem to be getting harder to find by the minute.


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 Post subject: Re: Operable Plymouth Locomotives at Museums/Tourist Railroa
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:39 pm 

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Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
bigjim4life wrote:
Strasburg Railroad, Strasburg, PA: Two Plymouths - #1, 20-ton Plymouth used for switching (and every now and then a mainline jaunt) - also #2, 10-ton Plymouth used for switching


My understanding (and for all we know, this is subject to some individual's whim or whatnot) is that Strasburg's original Plymouth has been "honorably retired" as a historic museum piece in its own right--almost ever since the second, propane-fueled Plymouth showed up, in the mid- to late-1980s as I recall. Back then they still had former PRR 44-tonner 9334/33 as back-up, and now they have two EMD SWs on site......

I figured on someone from Strasburg chiming in by now.....
I'm happy to say that you are incorrect. Both Plymouths at Strasburg are in service. #1 had been out of service in the shop for several years after an unfortunate hire was given too much rope and broke a complex cast iron piece of the clutch (funny how parts don't come apart when you don't have all of the fasteners removed...). That part has been replaced, and she is serving mainly to switch cold steam engines in the engine house, while #2 does the same thing in the back shop.

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 Post subject: Re: Operable Plymouth Locomotives at Museums/Tourist Railroa
PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:20 pm 

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Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society, Inc. does indeed own and operate the 1942 Plymouth, X-USN, that was formerly at Delaware, Ohio. It will be numbered back to No. 25 shortly, as that is the road numbered it carried for most of its career.

The black Plymouth, inside the 3 sided shed, is not owned by FWRHS. It is owned and operated by the Casad Industrial Park, but considering that we are side by side with them, it is probably easier to just list it under FWRHS, with a footnote.


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 Post subject: Re: Operable Plymouth Locomotives at Museums/Tourist Railroa
PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:12 pm 

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Wiscasset, Waterville & Farmington #52, built 1962:

http://wwfry.org/?page_id=231


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 Post subject: Re: Operable Plymouth Locomotives at Museums/Tourist Railroa
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:52 pm 

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JDLX wrote:
There are at least three narrow gauge Plymouths in the west.

- Roaring Camp & Big Trees #40 (12 ton), purchased as per the Arcadia book on the railroad from Kaiser Steel in 1978 and now with a Detroit 471 engine.

- Sumpter Valley #110 (10-ton). Originally Nelson Machinery Company, Ltd. (Dealer), North Vancouver, BC; to Atlas Mine & Supply Company (Dealer), Spokane, WA, circa 1972; to Crown Zellerbach Corp., Camas, WA; to Sumpter Valley Railway Restoration #101 circa 1982/1983, later renumbered Sumpter Valley #110

- Sumpter Valley #118 (15-ton), c/n 6373, built 8/1963. Originally constructed as a mine locomotive without a cab. Built for Perini Corporation (American River Project), Auburn, CA; to McCormick-Morgan, Auburn, CA; to Wyckoff Company, Seattle, WA, 1985; to Pacific Sound Resources, Seattle, WA, 1992; to Sumpter Valley Railway Restoration; cab added July 1996.

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Add to that "Old Smokeless"--a 3' gauge Plymouth built for working in a gunpowder factory--at the Southern California Railway Museum (formerly OERM). Smokeless is the main switch engine for the Grizzly Flats portion of the museum, moving Chloe, Emma, and the rolling stock preserved in Grizzly around while we don't have an operable narrow gauge steam engine.
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We also have Edison ML-6 #12, but it's sat cold by Carbarn #4 behind a mechanical reefer for as long as I can remember. For many years this was the only operable diesel owned by the trolley side of the museum (before the merger in '75 but I could be wrong) A couple winters ago while setting up decorations for our Christmas event, some of the steam crew and I poked around in the hood and found it's in reasonable shape.
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 Post subject: Re: Operable Plymouth Locomotives at Museums/Tourist Railroa
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:25 pm 

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Sparky418 wrote:
Add to that "Old Smokeless"--a 3' gauge Plymouth built for working in a gunpowder factory--at the Southern California Railway Museum (formerly OERM). Smokeless is the main switch engine for the Grizzly Flats portion of the museum, moving Chloe, Emma, and the rolling stock preserved in Grizzly around while we don't have an operable narrow gauge steam engine.
"Smokeless" was bought by a museum member and donated to the Museum to serve as the narrow-gauge switcher (an upgrade from human push power). It came from the Badger ammunition depot in Wisconsin and had worked the smokeless powder section of the plant -- it arrived with the name!
Sparky418 wrote:
We also have Edison ML-6 #12, but it's sat cold by Carbarn #4 behind a mechanical reefer for as long as I can remember. For many years this was the only operable diesel owned by the trolley side of the museum (before the merger in '75 but I could be wrong) A couple winters ago while setting up decorations for our Christmas event, some of the steam crew and I poked around in the hood and found it's in reasonable shape.
The #12 was used at the Southern California Edison supply yard in Alhambra which once had rail service. It's donation was arranged by a group of SCE upper-level employees that were were museum members. Prior to going to the museum it was repainted and renumbered. At Alhambra it had some kind of asset number; the paint crew decided to apply the number 12 which was one number higher than the numbers used by the locomotives used at the SCE "Big Creek" hydro-electric facilities in the southern Sierra Nevada Mountains.
The #12 was built for US Army service in 1941 and assigned to a facility near San Luis Obispo, California.

I remember one time, years ago when I ran the #12 for most of a day as we dumped two hopper loads of ballast. The locomotive was without a muffler and at the end of the day someone described my condition as "shell shock." Being mechanical drive it has a manual throttle, an air brake stand, a manual forward-reverse, a manual transmission and a foot (feet) operated clutch. No wonder why I was mentally and physically tired.

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 Post subject: Re: Operable Plymouth Locomotives at Museums/Tourist Railroa
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:02 pm 

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Found you another (allegedly) operable narrow-gauge Plymouth:

The Connecticut Antique Machinery Assn. in Kent, Connecticut, owners of Hawaii Ry. 2-4-2 5 and Argent Lumber 2-8-0 4, also have on site this little Plymouth. How operable it is, you'd have to ask them. Photo from May 2016 by yours truly.

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 Post subject: Re: Operable Plymouth Locomotives at Museums/Tourist Railroa
PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:04 pm 

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Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
Found you another (allegedly) operable narrow-gauge Plymouth:

The Connecticut Antique Machinery Assn. in Kent, Connecticut, owners of Hawaii Ry. 2-4-2 5 and Argent Lumber 2-8-0 4, also have on site this little Plymouth. How operable it is, you'd have to ask them. Photo from May 2016 by yours truly.

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Well, according to their 2019 Spring Power Up event page, the Plymouth was advertised to be out and about, so it's a safe assumption that it is operational, or at least in VERY recent times was operational.

http://www.ctamachinery.com/2014-spring-power-up.html

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 Post subject: Re: Operable Plymouth Locomotives at Museums/Tourist Railroa
PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:24 pm 

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Ok RYPN friends - after some fairly extensive research, here's what I have - list current as of today, I believe. There are a few question marks where I haven't heard back or it seems to be recently operable - there were a few from earlier in the thread that are or are not operating, I may not have included it due to its questionable status:

Arizona Railway Museum, Chandler, AZ: 20-ton Plymouth, #81, operable (museum also has second Plymouth being fixed up for operation)

Laws Railroad Museum, Bishop, CA: operable 3 ft. gauge Plymouth, used for private events, kids birthday parties and such

El Dorado Western Railway, El Dorado, CA: 22-ton Plymouth, operable, pulls train rides

Roaring Camp & Big Trees Narrow Gauge Railroad, Felton, CA: 14-ton Plymouth – shop shuttle and off-season weekday motive power

Santa Clara River Valley RR Historical Society, Fillmore, CA: 10-ton Plymouth, may be operable?

Ardenwood Historic Farm, Fremont, CA: #1, 5-ton Plymouth, operable, used for MOW work and regularly-scheduled train rides

Railtown 1897 State Historic Park, Jamestown, CA: 8-ton Plymouth, operable, used for switching moves and pulling equipment into and out of the roundhouse

Nevada County Narrow Gauge Railroad Museum, Nevada City, CA: Two Plymouths - #1, 8-ton Plymouth, and #10, 5-ton Plymouth, both operable

Southern California Railway Museum, Perris, CA: 3 ft. Gauge Plymouth, operable and used for switching narrow gauge equipment

Ryan Mining Camp, Ryan, CA: BL model Plymouth mining locomotive, 24” gauge, currently operable

California State Railroad Museum, Sacramento, CA: Two Plymouth locomotives, one 24” gauge, one 36” gauge, operable, but kept in Collections and not used

Niles Canyon Railway, Sunol, CA: 10-ton Plymouth, #103, currently stored but operable

South Park Rail Society, Como, CO: 12-ton Plymouth, 3 ft gauge – currently operable

Colorado Railroad Museum, Golden, CO: 25-ton Plymouth, narrow gauge – currently operable

Connecticut Antique Machinery Association, Kent, CT: 3 ft. gauge Plymouth – currently operable

Lahaina, Kaanapali and Pacific Railroad, Lahaina, HI: 40-ton, 3 ft. gauge Plymouth – currently operable, used for switching

Silver Creek & Stephenson Railroad, Freeport, IL: 12-ton Plymouth – operable and occasionally used for switching

Hesston Steam Museum, La Porte, IN: Three Plymouths – One 36” gauge and two 24” gauge Plymouths, a mix of 10-ton and 12-ton locomotives – all operable

Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society, Fort Wayne, IN: 50-ton Plymouth locomotive – currently operable

Iowa Trolley Park, Clear Lake, IA: 25-ton Plymouth locomotive – currently operable, used for occasional rides

Midwest Central Railroad, Mt. Pleasant, IA: Two Plymouths, both 25-tons, both 36” gauge – D14, operable, used for switching, pulling trains – D9, can move under its own power as of January 2020, but needs more work to be service-ready

Great Plains Transportation Museum, Wichita, KS: 35-ton Plymouth locomotive – operable, alternates as motive power for short train rides

Railway Museum of Greater Cincinnati, Latonia (Covington), KY: 18-ton Plymouth – operable, used occasionally for switching, but has a cracked exhaust manifold (as of Jan 2020)

Kentucky Railway Museum, New Haven, KY: Three 10-ton Plymouths - one owned by museum and operable, used for shop switching - one owned by museum and inoperable, but could be made to operate with few repairs - one privately owned and operational as well (as of Feb 2020)

B&O Railroad Museum, Baltimore, MD: Former Domino Sugar Plymouth locomotive - donated operable

Ali Ghan Shrine Railroad – Cumberland Shriner’s Club, Cumberland, MD: 10-ton, 3 ft. gauge Plymouth – operational, pulls trains for private events at club

Tuckahoe Steam & Gas Association, Easton, MD: Two Plymouth locomotives – one 5-ton and one 10-ton, both 3 ft. gauge, both operational

Walkersville Southern Railroad, Walkersville, MD: 60-ton Plymouth CR-4 locomotive, recently acquired and operable

Wiscasset, Waterville & Farmington Railway, Alna, ME: 12-ton Plymouth, operable, used when steam is not running

Sandy River & Rangeley Lakes Railroad, Phillips, ME: 7-ton Plymouth #14, 24” gauge, operable (needs minor repairs), used for occasional tourist service and switching

Boothbay Railway Village, Boothbay, ME: Plymouth, 24” gauge, operational, used in weekday tourist service

Maine Narrow Gauge Railroad & Museum, Portland, ME: 9-ton Plymouth, #11, operational, backup used for work trains

Little River Railroad, Coldwater, MI: Two 25-ton Plymouths, #220 and #330, both operable, used for shop/yard switching

Greenfield Village, Dearborn, MI: 1927-built Plymouth: operable, used for switching

Huckleberry Railroad, Genesee Township, MI: Two Plymouths, #11 and #571, currently operable

Houghton County Historical Museum, Lake Linden, MI: operable Plymouth HSG

Toonerville Trolley, Soo Junction, MI: Three operable Plymouths, all 2 ft. gauge 5-ton locomotives, pulling passenger trips.

Nevada State Railroad Museum, Boulder City, NV: 3 ft. gauge Plymouth, DL-2 mining locomotive – maybe operable

Nevada State Railroad Museum, Carson City, NV: 8-ton standard gauge Plymouth, operable, shop switcher

Pine Creek Railroad, Allaire State Park, Allaire, NJ: 7-ton Plymouth, 3 ft. gauge, operable, used on work trains

NYS&W Technical & Historical Society in Phillipsburg, NJ: 18-ton Plymouth – potentially operating

Morristown & Erie Railroad – Currently at Whippany Railroad Museum, Whippany, NJ: 18-ton Plymouth – Currently on display at museum, Operable?

Handy Dandy Railroad, Denton, NC: 5-ton Plymouth locomotive, recently operable, used for MOW work

Northern Ohio Railway Museum, Chippewa Lake, OH: 10-ton Plymouth DDT locomotive, operable, used for various things around museum

Midwest Railway Preservation Society, Cleveland, OH: Plymouth DGT locomotive, currently operable, used as roundhouse switcher

Orrville Railroad Heritage Society, Orrville, OH: 8-ton Plymouth, operable, heavily modified

Cedar Point & Lake Erie Railroad, Sandusky, OH: Operating Plymouth, disguised as a steam locomotive, used in shop switching and work train service

Sumpter Valley Railroad, Baker City, OR: Two narrow-gauge Plymouths - #110, 10-ton Plymouth, and #118, 15-ton Plymouth, both narrow gauge and operable

Foster Brook & State Line Railroad, (undisclosed location in Northwest PA): 2 ft. gauge Plymouth, operational, extremely private railroad, invitation only

Maryland & Pennsylvania Railroad Historical Society, Muddy Creek Forks, PA: 8-ton Plymouth, operable, used a few times per year for light switching in yard

East Broad Top Railroad, Orbisonia, PA: Two narrow-gauge Plymouths – M-4, a 12-ton Plymouth, and M-6, a 16-ton Plymouth – both recently operable

Colebrookdale Railroad, Pottstown, PA: 30-ton Plymouth, used for switching cars, maybe occasional trips?

Bucksgahuda & Western Railroad, St. Mary's, PA: 10-ton Plymouth locomotive used for various occasions on this private railroad

Stewartstown Railroad, Stewartstown, PA: 35-ton Plymouth, nicknamed "Mighty-Mo" in active tourist-hauling service

Strasburg Railroad, Strasburg, PA: Two Plymouths - #1, 20-ton Plymouth used for switching (and every now and then a mainline jaunt) - also #2, 10-ton Plymouth used for switching

Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania, Strasburg, PA: 18-ton Plymouth locomotive, operational, used for shop/yard switching

Chain Circle Shortline Railroad, West Penn Township, PA: 35-ton Plymouth, operable, standard-gauge private railroad of a few hundred feet

Doe River Gorge – East Tennessee & Western North Carolina Railroad, Hampton, TN: Plymouth HSD locomotive, 36” gauge, operable, used for pulling day camp trains

Inland Northwest Rail Museum, Reardan, WA: 3.5-ton Plymouth, narrow-gauge, operational, pulls short train ride at museum

Lake Whatcom Railway, Wickersham, WA: 30-ton Plymouth, privately owned, operable, occasionally used for switching or pulling a caboose/passenger car on trips

Durbin & Greenbrier Valley Railroad, Belington, WV: 30-ton Plymouth, operable (needs one repair as of Jan. 2019), used for switching at shops

Circus World Museum, Baraboo, WI: 30-ton Plymouth, nearly operable (under repair as of Dec. 2019), used for switching at museum

Mid-Continent Railway Museum, North Freedom, WI: 18-ton Plymouth, operable, used as shop switcher

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 Post subject: Re: Operable Plymouth Locomotives at Museums/Tourist Railroa
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:48 am 

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We were just talking about these over on the Dodge truck board. LOL Perhaps the guys who work here can help get your old Plymouth back on the road...

http://plymouthlocomotiveservice.com/


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 Post subject: Re: Operable Plymouth Locomotives at Museums/Tourist Railroa
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:48 am 

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This just in from Facebook about the NG one in Como, CO:

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Our little 3 foot narrow gauge Plymouth diesel locomotive #5 is currently residing in Como, CO on a 1 year lease that will expire on August 11, 2020. We currently plan to not extend the lease of the #5 to the lessee for any additional time, and to remove #5 from that location on 08/11/20. If anyone has any interest in purchasing the #5 locomotive from us on or after 08/12/20, please contact us at mchugh.locomotive@gmail.com


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 Post subject: Re: Operable Plymouth Locomotives at Museums/Tourist Railroa
PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:30 pm 

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Historic Jefferson Railway, Jefferson, TX has a 3-foot gauge Plymouth gas-mechanical "Critter." It hauls a diminutive tourist train in lieu of their recently-sold Crown 4-4-0 steamer.

https://www.facebook.com/HistoricJeffersonRailway/photos/a.223184084390446/2269299986445502/?type=3&theater


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 Post subject: Re: Operable Plymouth Locomotives at Museums/Tourist Railroa
PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:21 pm 

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Small update on Mid Continents 18 Ton Plymouth. I do not think this has run since before the 2008 flood. It was drained of flood water in 2008 and again after the last two floods in 2018. But it has had no TLC in some time. The bearing caps were removed and drained, as well as transmission and its Climax motor. I need to get under it and lube the drive chain as it is very rusty and needs to be greased or oiled. One day it isn't going to want to turn the wheels. When this thing ran it was like the circus had come to town, a lot of unique noise. People just stared at it wandering what it was. Actually a very interesting critter far as I am concerned. Regards, John.


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 Post subject: Re: Operable Plymouth Locomotives at Museums/Tourist Railroa
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:29 pm 

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I had an update/addition to the list above - Kentucky Railway Museum, in New Haven, IN was added.

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