It is currently Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:44 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 34 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: More progress on the East Broad Top
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 6:42 pm 

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:33 am
Posts: 17
Location: Baltimore, MD area
From the EBT Facebook page:

Quote:
This morning the EBT crew pulled out a long cut of hopper cars that hadn’t been moved in about 15 years. Decades ago they had been stashed at the south end of the Rockhill Yard, where they could be seen on speeder rides. Now a contractor is removing trees from the right-of-way, and needed to use the old grade to the top of the coaling dock. So the cars — vines and all — were pulled off track three and the coaling-dock lead.


https://www.facebook.com/ebtrr/videos/1 ... &__tn__=-R

Image

Image

_________________
-Mike Huhn


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: More progress on the East Broad Top
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 7:57 pm 

Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:51 pm
Posts: 2043
Location: Southern California
Use this link will get to the East Broad Top Railroad (fan group) Facebook page and you will not also get other video feeds:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/123193174881872/

And the link below gets you to the East Broad Top Facebook page (the actual railroad's account):

https://www.facebook.com/ebtrr/

_________________
Brian Norden


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: More progress on the East Broad Top
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 8:20 pm 

Joined: Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:28 pm
Posts: 545
Location: Northern WV
Great to see real progress at EBT. I don't see any crossties in either photo. Are the rails just sitting on the ground?

_________________
Roger Cole


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: More progress on the East Broad Top
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 8:39 pm 

Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:13 pm
Posts: 95
Wish folks would stop using Facebook to post. Some of us refuse to become a member due for many reasons.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: More progress on the East Broad Top
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 11:10 pm 

Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:36 pm
Posts: 95
mspetersen wrote:
Wish folks would stop using Facebook to post. Some of us refuse to become a member due for many reasons.


Firstly, there's usually not a requirement to join Facebook in order to view photos or videos like this that are directly linked - you typically need to only be a user in order to post comments on the videos. If you wanted to remain particularly anonymous, you could use any one of a number of free email providers to create a new email address that's not associated with any of your usual addresses or personal information. Using that, you could simply create a fake account on Facebook. Use the fake email address, make the profile picture a photo of your favorite train, animal, tree, ANYTHING that's not you. Then voila! You have full access and interactivity to these sorts of posts without Facebook knowing anything about YOU.

Secondly, the fact of the matter is that social media is the easiest way to get these kinds of materials out to the public quickly and efficiently. I hate to say it, but if you simply refuse to adapt to modern times and solutions, you're going to be left behind in today's society.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: More progress on the East Broad Top
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 8:53 am 

Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:07 pm
Posts: 1116
Location: B'more Maryland
Zach Lybrand wrote:
mspetersen wrote:
Wish folks would stop using Facebook to post. Some of us refuse to become a member due for many reasons.


Secondly, the fact of the matter is that social media is the easiest way to get these kinds of materials out to the public quickly and efficiently. I hate to say it, but if you simply refuse to adapt to modern times and solutions, you're going to be left behind in today's society.


Exactly this. Yes, Facebook is a cesspool, but it's a very crowded cesspool.

_________________
If you fear the future you won't have one.
The past was the worst.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: More progress on the East Broad Top
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 1:41 pm 

Joined: Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:52 am
Posts: 2570
Location: Strasburg, PA
WVNorthern wrote:
Great to see real progress at EBT. I don't see any crossties in either photo. Are the rails just sitting on the ground?
Since that track probably last saw a section gang in 1956 (64 years ago) or earlier, it would be a minor miracle if there were any ties. I guess that the trees provide enough shade to avold sun kinks here. Some spots down the line have the rails snaking all over the place.

I wonder if the rails, after decades half buried in that mulch, will even be salvageable, or whether they will be corroded away too much at the base to be used.


Last edited by Kelly Anderson on Thu May 28, 2020 4:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: More progress on the East Broad Top
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:30 pm 

Joined: Fri May 04, 2012 12:20 pm
Posts: 209
Location: Maine
Zach Lybrand wrote:
mspetersen wrote:
Wish folks would stop using Facebook to post. Some of us refuse to become a member due for many reasons.




Secondly, the fact of the matter is that social media is the easiest way to get these kinds of materials out to the public quickly and efficiently. I hate to say it, but if you simply refuse to adapt to modern times and solutions, you're going to be left behind in today's society.

I am perfectly happy to be left behind and NOT a part of today’s society.

Keith


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: More progress on the East Broad Top
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:19 pm 

Joined: Wed Dec 24, 2014 3:15 pm
Posts: 595
LVRR2095 wrote:
I am perfectly happy to be left behind and NOT a part of today’s society.

Keith


Well, you may be perfectly fine with the idea, but it wouldn’t be smart for the organizations to do so. It just helps a lot more for organizations such as the EBT to gain a presence in social media when advertisement on billboards alone and not letting people know who can’t be there what’s going on isn’t going to cut it.

The Nevada Northern is the prime example of an organization that has used Social media for their immense benefit. They’re not within close distance to really anywhere, and they’ve made an identity for themselves in social media, to the degree where they have over 100,000 likes on Facebook. For a tourist railroad in the literal middle of nowhere (people say that about the EBT, but it applies even more so here) this is extremely beneficial for an organization that would have to depend on conversation for ridership.

Getting back on topic, I and thousands of others are always very excited when the EBT posts a video or a series of photos letting us who can’t visit know what’s going on, even if Facebook is a can of worms.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: More progress on the East Broad Top
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 8:24 pm 

Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:58 am
Posts: 251
Zach Lybrand wrote:
mspetersen wrote:
Wish folks would stop using Facebook to post. Some of us refuse to become a member due for many reasons.


Firstly, there's usually not a requirement to join Facebook in order to view photos or videos like this that are directly linked


The usual problem I have with Facebook as a non subscriber is that even when the content is "Public" I get a popup that covers over half of the screen demanding I log in or create an account. I can make it cover only the bottom quarter of the screen for awhile, but sooner or later it blows back up again demanding to see my papers.

If that's the experience you want the general public to have at your site, then so be it.

Brian


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: More progress on the East Broad Top
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 9:13 pm 

Joined: Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:28 pm
Posts: 545
Location: Northern WV
mspetersen wrote:
Wish folks would stop using Facebook to post. Some of us refuse to become a member due for many reasons.


The invention of social media, like almost every new invention, has its good and bad points. This RYPN forum has to run on a server somewhere. It requires a domain name, an administrator and technical maintenance from time to time. It also needs to be regularly backed up. All this requires hardware, software, technical expertise and of course, money. Most railway preservation groups just can't afford to go that route.

Facebook, on the other hand, does not require the expense and technical know-how to set up a group. In about a half-hour, you can be in business and not have to worry about the technical details. Best part -- it's FREE, but does come with ads just like TV. I follow several Facebook groups including the EBT group. I have found lots of interesting rail preservation facts on Facebook that I never would have found out any other way - and in real-time. Print media might highlight the story in a couple of months after the fact.

So....my decision is to overlook the negatives of social media to gain the positives. Your mileage (and decision) may vary.

_________________
Roger Cole


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: More progress on the East Broad Top
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 9:42 pm 

Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:51 pm
Posts: 11497
Location: Somewhere east of Prescott, AZ along the old Santa Fe "Prescott & Eastern"
LVRR2095 wrote:
I am perfectly happy to be left behind and NOT a part of today’s society.


Within that context, the entire concept of "preservation" is completely pointless.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: More progress on the East Broad Top
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 12:33 am 

Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:14 pm
Posts: 135
Steamguy73 wrote:
LVRR2095 wrote:
I am perfectly happy to be left behind and NOT a part of today’s society.

Keith


Well, you may be perfectly fine with the idea, but it wouldn’t be smart for the organizations to do so. It just helps a lot more for organizations such as the EBT to gain a presence in social media when advertisement on billboards alone and not letting people know who can’t be there what’s going on isn’t going to cut it.

The Nevada Northern is the prime example of an organization that has used Social media for their immense benefit. They’re not within close distance to really anywhere, and they’ve made an identity for themselves in social media, to the degree where they have over 100,000 likes on Facebook. For a tourist railroad in the literal middle of nowhere (people say that about the EBT, but it applies even more so here) this is extremely beneficial for an organization that would have to depend on conversation for ridership.

Getting back on topic, I and thousands of others are always very excited when the EBT posts a video or a series of photos letting us who can’t visit know what’s going on, even if Facebook is a can of worms.


Nevada Norther is a great example of how to social media properly. Their cat has memes on the non-railroad internet of it. He pops up in my mechanic feeds all the time, all linking back to Nevada Northern. People who never even knew what a railroad was, know if it from Dirt.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: More progress on the East Broad Top
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 8:06 am 

Joined: Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:52 am
Posts: 2570
Location: Strasburg, PA
Kelly Anderson wrote:
WVNorthern wrote:
Great to see real progress at EBT. I don't see any crossties in either photo. Are the rails just sitting on the ground?
Since that track probably last saw a section gang in 1956 (64 years ago) or earlier, it would be a minor miracle if there were any ties. I guess that the trees provide enough shade to avold sun kinks here. Some spots down the line have the rails snaking all over the place.

I wonder if the rails, after decades half buried in that mulch, will even be salvageable, or whether they will be corroded away too much at the base to be used.
I received an email from an FEBT member this morning with the "straight skinny".
Quote:
"about 15 years ago we wanted to get the flat, the four bay hopper and one really good 3 bay hopper off the tipple ramp track.

So we installed ties for that and for the speeders, ties were placed at the joint bars and approx the middle of the rail length. now in all fairness they were ties that Joe delivered!

it was amazing that there were still ties under the rail not good but they were still there??"


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: More progress on the East Broad Top
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 2:05 pm 

Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:47 pm
Posts: 164
Location: Arizona
Kelly Anderson wrote:
Kelly Anderson wrote:
WVNorthern wrote:
Great to see real progress at EBT. I don't see any crossties in either photo. Are the rails just sitting on the ground?
Since that track probably last saw a section gang in 1956 (64 years ago) or earlier, it would be a minor miracle if there were any ties. I guess that the trees provide enough shade to avold sun kinks here. Some spots down the line have the rails snaking all over the place.

I wonder if the rails, after decades half buried in that mulch, will even be salvageable, or whether they will be corroded away too much at the base to be used.
I received an email from an FEBT member this morning with the "straight skinny".
Quote:
"about 15 years ago we wanted to get the flat, the four bay hopper and one really good 3 bay hopper off the tipple ramp track.

So we installed ties for that and for the speeders, ties were placed at the joint bars and approx the middle of the rail length. now in all fairness they were ties that Joe delivered!

it was amazing that there were still ties under the rail not good but they were still there??"


Well it looks like a spike is visible in the bottom of the second pic. Or it might be a gauge rod, which would be even better.


Offline
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 34 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


 Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 199 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: