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 Post subject: BBC: "Heritage railways in 'precarious' situation"
PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:12 pm 

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Story focuses mainly on the Welsh heritage railways, but.........

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-53614567

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Heritage steam railways are in a "precarious" situation and will be struggling for survival over the summer, one railway manager has said.

Tourist attractions such as steam railways have been closed for months and are now reopening with social distancing and hygiene measures.

Liz McGuiness, general manager at the Llangollen Railway, said the industry was "walking a tightrope".

She said the railway will lose hundreds of thousands of pounds over the summer.

Among the new measures at the Denbighshire attraction, which is opening for the first time since the lockdown on Saturday, is a special hand sanitiser for staff as it is considered dangerous to use alcohol-based products on board a steam locomotive.

In total, £100,000 has been spent making the railway safe to reopen, including buying PPE for volunteers and staff.


Much more at the link.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:19 pm 

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I’m sure it’s the same here in the states. Some operations haven’t opened at all this year and many that have are running extremely reduced schedules.

TVRM for example would usually be running the 1 hour “local” train 5 times a day, daily, plus a Georgia train and dinner train on the weekends plus trains on the etowah tn line.
This summer they are running the local 4 days a week. That’s it. That’s a major cut.

GSMR usually runs trains daily In the summer, they are also down to 4 days a week and they are only running the west-bound route, and are not operating east to Dillsboro.

Meanwhile Tweetsie Railroad is not allowed to reopen even for train rides only because the state considers them an amusement park.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:39 pm 

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Crescent-Zephyr wrote:
Meanwhile Tweetsie Railroad is not allowed to reopen even for train rides only because the state considers them an amusement park.


As does Google and Wikipedia....


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:49 pm 

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Curious: Great Smoky Mountains RR can operate, but Tweetsie can't ('amusement park'), and the North Carolina Transportation Museum in Spencer can't. Does GSMR have some kind of common-carrier status that differentiates them from Spencer?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:53 pm 

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Headend Shield wrote:
Crescent-Zephyr wrote:
Meanwhile Tweetsie Railroad is not allowed to reopen even for train rides only because the state considers them an amusement park.


As does Google and Wikipedia....


I wasn’t saying they weren’t an amusement park? I was just saying a fact.

It does seem unfair that GSMR can run enclosed air conditioned cars on 4 hour train rides but Tweetsie can’t run a 30 minute all open air train. But... I’m not the one making the rules!


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 Post subject: Re: BBC: "Heritage railways in 'precarious' situation"
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:10 pm 

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John D wrote:
Curious: Great Smoky Mountains RR can operate, but Tweetsie can't ('amusement park'), and the North Carolina Transportation Museum in Spencer can't. Does GSMR have some kind of common-carrier status that differentiates them from Spencer?


GSMR is indeed a common carrier - they have hauld freight since e inception in the late 1980s. Tweetsie, while a "railroad", is a narrow gage one located within an amusement park and its existence is based on the fact that it publicly calls itself an amusement park. Cant argue that point now.

As far as Spencer goes....is it a museum, not a common carrier. One has to decipher if it is an issue of they "can't" because they are told so by a local government agency, or they "can't " because they don't have the volunteer staff available to do so at the moment? Spencer itself is open to the public, with limitations.

Many museums have seniors making up the bulk of their volunteer staff....if they as individuals don't want to risk it, the museums can't force them.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:22 pm 

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In hopeful news, someone a while back brought up UV light as a way to disinfect cars/ stations quickly. There apparently is a type of UV light (far-range UV-C) that would be very safe to use, and effective: https://news.columbia.edu/ultraviolet-t ... 9-UV-light .


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 Post subject: Re: BBC: "Heritage railways in 'precarious' situation"
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:16 pm 

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Spencer (a.k.a. the North Carolina Transportation Museum) has been declared an 'amusement park' by state officials. That lends credence to the fact that Great Smokey Mountains RR, as a common carrier, can operate passenger trains, but Tweetsie-and now Spencer-cannot:
https://salisburypost.com/2020/08/03/hanging-on-by-a-thread-county-pleads-for-restriction-relief-at-nc-transportation-museum/?fbclid=IwAR3SsXRifr41nxKdVRTAq8esT0d7iNTsqqzFMgYpPhLVdmjTZSk1_VovjDM


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