This coack was built for the Denver, Rio Grande and later transferred to the Western Pacific. Recently it was donated to the Western Pacific Railroad Museum by by Les Beckman of the Hoosier Valley Railroad Museum. The car has been working the various tourist railroads abound the Chicago for many years.

The WPRM people intend to run it behind their WP #165 this summer. It is shorter than their zephyr cars that have trouble getting around the Portola turning loop. The interior has the usual tired interior but can be repaired in time.

Ted Miles

Here are 2 old threats with more info about the car:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35746

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=37213

plus the builder photo for this series of cars.

There has been a number mix-up. The WP 302 is part of an order of 20 cars built in 1923 by the Pullman Co. and has a "Harriman" style arch roof. It has never been renumbered nor modified by the WP and is currently at Rio Vista Junction, unserviceable, where it has been stored indoors for quite a while. NCRy at Sunol also has one of these cars, the 315, which had been converted to M/W service in the 1940s and painted orange until they converted it back to a coach.

The car number in the pic provided is "321" and as such is probably the first car in a different order of cars.

This is from the Lot of 51 coaches (84 seat capacity) built by Pullman in 1910 (July to October), 40 for the WP, and 11 for the D&RG. The 40 cars for the WP were #301 (1st) to #340, 11 cars for the D&RG were #888-#898. The 40 WP cars would be transferred to the Rio Grande starting in 1915 as the predicted passenger traffic levels on the WP did not materialize.

So the coaches WP received in 1923 were #301 (2nd)-#320 (2nd), in Lot #4716 (ordered/built at same time as 8 diners built in Lot #4717).

The total of the 1910 coaches on the D&RG(W) would later be renumbered to #900-#950 in 1926, then later many were renumbered into new various series in the #900's and #1000's and modernized to various configurations, as well as 2 to business cars (both of which are extant). Other un-modernized cars were sold to the Algoma Central in 1949, including this car (there are at least 3, if not 5, other survivors by this route of ownership.)

Ted -

Thanks very much for clarifying all this. Yes, the car now at the Western Pacific Railroad Museum in Portola, California is WP # 302 (first) from the initial 1910 order from Pullman. The other WP 302 (at Rio Vista Junction) is from the later 1923 order. One slight correction. When the initial 1910 Western Pacific cars started going back to the Denver & Rio Grande, they were renumbered starting at the end of the D&RG nuumbers which, as you say, ended at 898. Thus the first car returned was given the number 899 (not 900) and happened to be ex-WP 302, the car that is now at Portola. I have a lot of correspondence on all this in my files from when I still had possession of the car!

BTW, let me also take a moment to wish all of those here on RyPN, a most Joyous Christmas!

Les

Here are all the surviving cars of this series.

The last pic is at Depot Park in Belpre, OH. This car is not mentioned in the links above
any more info on that? (It is in fake B&O colors)

D&RGW #917 ACR #404 (as described previously in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35746&start=15) is located at the the Club Car Grille - 6225 W D Ave, One Mile west of US131, Kalamazoo, MI 49009-9013. There are photos of the interior on Tripadvisor and Google Maps.

The car has a side door cut into it and some modifications to the interior. With these modifications, it would perform well as an accessible coach. Additionally, the roof and regular heating / air conditioning should do well in preserving the car. But, restaurant failures are frequent and sudden.

I suggest keeping an eye on the car in Belpre, Ohio in the Depot Park, as accumulating maintenance needs may prompt the city government to look for options for disposing the car. A similarly situated car in Danville, IL (of Chicago & Eastern Illinois and Boston & Maine heritage) was scrapped this year.