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 Post subject: Re: Original Price of Locomotives
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:42 pm 

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Aren't those Erie geeps passenger units equipped with steam generators? Still running in commuter service in the early '70s...

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 Post subject: Re: Original Price of Locomotives
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:53 pm 

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Erie 1260-1265 were freight units.

They did have five GP-7s, 1400-1404 that were equipped for passenger.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:20 pm 

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1955 seems late for something like a Korean War surcharge, I'd tend to agree with PC that there's a transpose in the '5' and the '9' -- but is the price mentioned in more places than the board note? And what do we kave for comp prices on GP9s in this general time range? I think this is right around the time PRR made their big Geep purchase...

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 Post subject: Re: Original Price of Locomotives
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:17 pm 

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At a point in time in the 2000 oughts, I had access to a spread sheet that was tracking all CSX Capital Expenditures - at that time the GE AC44CW's were being placed on the books at $2.1 Million each. Since that was 20 years ago, I have no idea what engines are going for in 2024.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:07 am 

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With the diesel prices shown it made sense for RDG with 10 FT A-B sets in service to order 20 2-8-0's rebuilt into 4-8-4's for fast freight. (they later ordered 10 more 2-8-0's rebuilt into 4-8-4's.)

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 Post subject: Re: Original Price of Locomotives
PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:09 am 

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PRR M-1 prototype, Juniata 1923: $68,317
PRR M-1 mass-production, Baldwin 1926: $65,612

Ref: "Atterbury's Engines", Bert Pennypacker, Trains October 1979


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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2024 12:57 pm 

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From New York Ontario & Western in the Diesel Age, Robert Mohowski, Andover Junction Publications:

44-ton GE 1941/1942 $35,000
FT A-B pair EMD May 1945 $249,341
NW-2 EMD 1948 $95,673
F3 A-B pair EMD March 1948 $301,701


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 Post subject: Re: Original Price of Locomotives
PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2024 5:58 pm 

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"With the diesel prices shown it made sense for RDG with 10 FT A-B sets in service to order 20 2-8-0's rebuilt into 4-8-4's for fast freight. (they later ordered 10 more 2-8-0's rebuilt into 4-8-4's.)"


And at almost the same time, Frisco was rebuilding a different sort of 2-8-0s original constructed before WW1 into what were perhaps the most modern 2-8-2s built in America. I do not have the precise financial details, but was told that it was a consequence of tax law that allowed full depreciation if more than a particular percentage of the engine's value was 'new' construction or equipment. Someone here, I'm sure, has access to those numbers...

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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2024 6:17 pm 

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BLW billed the narrow-gauge Carson & Colorado $9,000 each for two 4-4-0s, loaded on flat cars. The locomotives were completed April 1883.

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 Post subject: Re: Original Price of Locomotives
PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2024 5:29 pm 

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From Construction Plant, Methods and Costs Chas H. Paul, Chief Engineer State of Ohio, Miami Conservancy District June 1925

American 40-ton locomotive, standard gage, saddle tank, type 040, 14" x 22" cylinders $13,000
Plymouth model BL 6 ton gasoline locomotive 36" gage $3,040
Plymouth model AL 3 ton gasoline locomotive 36" gage $1,725

(all prices for "new" locos)

A couple of notes: This information was located in Google Books, where there is quite a lot of interesting details on this project, including the costs of locomotive cranes, a number of used locomotives, and a variety of construction equipment. These pieces were purchased for the Dayton Channel Improvement project, and appear to have been bought several years prior to the 1925 date on the report.

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 Post subject: Re: Original Price of Locomotives
PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:33 pm 

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F3A EMD March 14, 1947 $140,175
F5A EMD October 1, 1948 $161,266
GP7 EMD September 1, 1951 $155,288

Ref: "Aberdeen and Rockfish Railroad". Warren L. Calloway, Diesel Era, July/August 1992


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 Post subject: Re: Original Price of Locomotives
PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:24 pm 

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I have a microfilm copy of the BLW drawing directory, 1939-1952 obtained from the Pennsylvania State Archives several years ago. While doing some browsing I found that a number of pages at the end weren't part of the drawing directory, but were transcriptions of early BLW correspondence, including purchase agreements. Here is a summary of one picked at random-

April 13, 1871
Buyer - Chester and Tamaroa Coal and R.R. Co. of Illinois
0-8-0. 15" x 24" cylinders, 60-3/4" drivers with steel tires.
Compromise gauge, 4'8-1/2" to 4' 10".
Soft Coal
Boiler of cold blast charcoal iron 3/8" thick
Iron flues with copper ferrules on firebox end
Cast steel fire box, 5/16" thick
Eight wheel tender, 18,000 gallons
Supplied with a full complement of tools
Delivered to Tamaroa, Illinois
$10,675 in promissory notes, half payable at six months and half at eight months, 7% interest.


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 Post subject: Re: Original Price of Locomotives
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 3:39 pm 

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Hi All,

The Baldwin Registers posted pricing often including extras separately (totals only) and total price. They are held at Smithsonian but are not digitized sadly. I know a few people have microfilms and it would be wonderful if they could be digitized. One can wish!

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