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 Post subject: Re: RDG 2100 from Washington State to Cleveland, OH ??!!!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:59 pm 

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[quote="Steamguy73". Just sell the museum to JJJ, he built an 18 stall roundhouse in a matter of 2 years, while this much smaller roundhouse was completed in a decade.[/quote]


JJJ sold HIS railroad for millions, and has used HIS money to build his AOS. I have never been to Altoona, but I strongly suspect they suffer as a lot of museums do. Lots of things need done, and not much to do it with.


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 Post subject: Re: RDG 2100 from Washington State to Cleveland, OH ??!!!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:30 am 

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I'm sorry I ever mentioned JJJ, i could never compare his roundhouse to Altoona. Anyways, altoona has potential if and only if they get 1361 in one piece, and restore the various passenger cars they have for excursions. They could be useful for an engine like 5550 when it is built, as they already made deals with the penn valley railroad. This museum is one of the better museums I have seen, and if they do what I said up there, I'm happy. I don't even care if 1361 ever operates again, I just want it to be in one piece.

As for 2100, that's more of a situation for JJJ to take care of. He even stored the locomotive on his property before it was moved to Tacoma. But he doesn't have to. What website said RDG 2100 would be moved to Cleveland? Now that would interest me, as Sugarcreek is close by to Cleveland.


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 Post subject: Re: RDG 2100 from Washington State to Cleveland, OH ??!!!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:58 am 

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I was there in May, 2014, and the infrastructure is largely complete. The collection needs repair, the buildings need finishing. This constant kicking the Museum while it is down is purposeless, unless the goal is to gather more kickers to deliver more kicks.
Yes, the K4s is a nearly unique railroading treasure. Yes, it was a botched renovation. Yes, we all want to see 1361 rebuilt, restored, and steamed, but will settle for an assembled locomotive.
In the meantime, initiatives to correct the deficiencies that exist might be undertaken at the grassroots level, and directed to refurbishing the GG1, repairing the two observations, resurfacing and lettering any of the historical equipment. Get involved in a solution.

Or - we can all stand and watch the kicking, the result of which is...what?

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 Post subject: Re: RDG 2100 from Washington State to Cleveland, OH ??!!!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:04 pm 

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Steamguy73 wrote:
As for 2100, that's more of a situation for JJJ to take care of.

Says who? Unless JJJ himself decides so, it most certainly isn't.


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 Post subject: Re: RDG 2100 from Washington State to Cleveland, OH ??!!!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:46 pm 

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He actually stored the 2100 in his shops before its ellusive journey to Tacoma. He doesn't need to or have to buy it, I was making a suggestion. I just want to know what source said 2100 was to move to cleveland


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 Post subject: Re: RDG 2100 from Washington State to Cleveland, OH ??!!!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:05 pm 

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Steamguy73 wrote:
He actually stored the 2100 in his shops before its ellusive journey to Tacoma. He doesn't need to or have to buy it, I was making a suggestion. I just want to know what source said 2100 was to move to cleveland


The fact that he stored it doesn't really have anything to do with the situation. You're seeing correlations in sketchy information that don't exist. And, to boot, dragged two completely separate organizations (Strasburg and AOS) into the discussion unnecessarily, and then immediately backpedal/deflect when countered. So, why bring them in at all? Logic is in short supply here.

EDIT: Also, after re-reading, de-railing the thread from speculation regarding 2100 moving back east, into your own critique of Altoona. There's no connection, so why?

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 Post subject: Re: RDG 2100 from Washington State to Cleveland, OH ??!!!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:42 pm 

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Steamguy73, in relevant part wrote:
What website said RDG 2100 would be moved to Cleveland? Now that would interest me, as Sugarcreek is close by to Cleveland.
And then he wrote:
I just want to know what source said 2100 was to move to cleveland
Brother Pincus originally wrote:
RDG 2100 from Washington State to Cleveland, OH ??!!!

Just received some back-channel intel about this--- can it be true?? 2100 being returned east of the Mississippi? Word is that it will be returned to original coal-burning capability (no surprise there, eh?).

Inquiring minds want to know!!

And it's not even 4/1/15 yet......

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 Post subject: Re: RDG 2100 from Washington State to Cleveland, OH ??!!!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:36 pm 

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Yes, indeed it would-as I did. I'm just puzzled why his opening salvo on page 1 consisted of the following:

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This move is as likely as 1361 operating in the near future. The Altoona Railroad museum is just a terrible excuse for a museum. Put the Strasburg owner in charge and they'll have it ready. The museum is as good as the movie foodfight. Nothing to be proud of in it.


It's irrelevant, and he continues on farther after that. Call me crazy, but I dislike cheap shots on groups that aren't connected to the original topic.

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 Post subject: Re: RDG 2100 from Washington State to Cleveland, OH ??!!!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:45 pm 

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I want to know his source, what website did he get it from. Another forum? A railroad? I already saw that post


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 Post subject: Re: RDG 2100 from Washington State to Cleveland, OH ??!!!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:45 pm 

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See page 1, courtesy Howard, the original poster.

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The info I received was from a rail logistics professional, not Trainorders. Yes, it seems far-fetched, but stranger things have happened in this game.

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 Post subject: Re: RDG 2100 from Washington State to Cleveland, OH ??!!!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:09 am 

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Sorry for being irrelevant, and thanks for the information!


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 Post subject: Re: RDG 2100 from Washington State to Cleveland, OH ??!!!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:58 am 

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If I was irrelevant, I'm not sorry. Somebody has to stick up for the injured party.

I hope 2100 comes back east. She belongs here, and she's a fine locomotive.

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 Post subject: Re: RDG 2100 from Washington State to Cleveland, OH ??!!!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:05 pm 

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Just a note: Looking at pics, apparently the Great Northern aux tender is OK to travel on its own wheels.

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 Post subject: Re: RDG 2100 from Washington State to Cleveland, OH ??!!!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:44 pm 

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When was this?!


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 Post subject: Re: RDG 2100 from Washington State to Cleveland, OH ??!!!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:43 pm 

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That image is from when the 2100 was originally moved to Tacoma.

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