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 Post subject: Wagner car and Barney & Smith Interurban Available
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:25 am 

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I ran into this on the PassengerCarList@yahoo.com:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PassengerCarList/
Weren't we just talking about these cars earlier this year? looks like the owner is ready to part with them. Here is a copy of his message to the PCL:

"I have been reading the group mail for a while now but haven't posted
yet. 20 years ago I thought I would get into the railroad hobby among
the many other things I was already involved in. We started by acquiring
and bringing home a Lakeshore Electric Interurban car body. I don't see
much on Trolley cars on the list but this is a passenger car. It is LSE
#15 built by Barney and Smith in 1900. it still has a lot of the
interior furnishings. The second car we got was from the B&LE RR. It was
car no. 451 and was built by Wagner Palace Car Co in 1891. This car has
suffered roof damage in the past year and is getting in sad shape. At
the time we got 451, we bought a former RF&P combination diner and
kitchen car for the trucks and other parts. The triple axle trucks have
bigger wheels than what was originally under 451 but the car would fit
on them. Getting these cars fixed and saved is something I'll probably
never get to and I would like to find them a new home. I've also got the
remains of a fairly large model train layout. Fromm packing I've found
this has probably been stored since the mid 60's so all the components
are old. There are sections of wood road bed that measures about 1 3/8
in between centers for the rail. There is a lot of strips of rail and
wood slats that would represent ties. There is a lot of electrical items
and junction boards. There are pieces that appear to have been set up
for overhead for trolleys. Do any of the model guys use this type of
stuff for layouts anymore? Some of the items might not be usable due to
moisture but there is alot that appears good. We are having a yard sale
this week and I will have this stuff for sale. I am located about 3
miles west of Greenwich Ohio 44837 right on State Rt 224. If anyone is
interested. I'm open to offers. Doug Tallman"

I don't personally know Mr. Tallman, and know nothing about the cars other than what was stated. If anyone wants to get in contact with Mr. Tallman, it might be easiest to subscribe to the PassengerCarList, then contact him through the list.

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 Post subject: Re: Wagner car and Barney & Smith Interurban Available
PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:44 pm 

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Interesting. LSE #15 appears to be completely unmentioned in the PNAERC roster. A remarkable find, I hope it doesn't get away amongst all the other liquidations.


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 Post subject: Re: Wagner car and Barney & Smith Interurban Available
PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:08 am 

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robertmacdowell wrote:
Interesting. LSE #15 appears to be completely unmentioned in the PNAERC roster. A remarkable find, I hope it doesn't get away amongst all the other liquidations.


You're right, I didn't know about this one, though I'll be sure to add it. Definitely an interesting find; I would be interested to see photos of it to try and gauge the overall condition of the car. There's one other LSE B&S car body in existence but it's at Buckeye Lake in fairly poor shape; overall this Greenwich car is one of only four B&S interurban cars known to exist, all of them bodies.

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