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 Post subject: Re: Lima was going to build a 4-8-6?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:29 pm 

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I should have thought of Karen Parker's site earlier. She's pretty creative with what-if photos and drawings. Thanks for locating it!


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 Post subject: Re: Lima was going to build a 4-8-6?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:37 pm 

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At the considerable risk of having this thread go crazy, it seems appropriate to bring up that the New York Central was considering at some point a duplex drive variant of the Niagara, to be in class C1a:

http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopi ... 93&t=75097

Ducking under the desk. . .


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 Post subject: Re: Lima was going to build a 4-8-6?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:41 pm 

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Oh my, I knew it was a possibility the thread would go crazy, but I didn't expect this. . .

Actually, it's surprising how plausible some of these "fantasy" engines are. With the exceptions of the PRR T-1 as a Garratt, the Erie Quadruplex, the NYC 4-8-4 and the proposed C1a 4-4-4-4 styled for the 20th Century Limited of 1938, and one or two others, most of these machines could have existed, or nearly so. One--the Reading 2-10-4--would have been an alternative to the T-1 4-8-4 (in other words, if Reading had opted for this one, there would be no T-1s). Most intriguing to my eyes are the NYC "3600" 2-10-2s (a good looker for a 2-10-2) and the A-2a 2-8-4s (only changes for that one are Box Pok drivers and a booster).

Then there was that third-generation "J-4" Hudson, supposedly based on the NYC S-1 and S-2, which is big enough to remind me of C&O's L-2 and L-2a 4-6-4s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesapeake ... _and_L-2-A

http://members.pioneer.net/~fitzrr/303.jpg

http://lewrail.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=2379398

Also of great interest are the copies of publications that are also on this site; among them are a partial copy of a Baker valve gear parts catalog and a course on locomotive firing:

http://www.railarchive.net/bakervalve/partscat.htm

http://www.railarchive.net/firing/index.html

Again, we must be grateful to the people with the passion to collect and share this material via the internet.


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 Post subject: Re: Lima was going to build a 4-8-6?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:18 pm 

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I submit that this site puts all others to shame on the subject of crazy fictional steam locomotives:


http://www.kropplenburg.de/rsr/pages/ModernExp.html

Here's a pic of one example:

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This guy really takes the cake for imaginative steam.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:01 pm 

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Do the German designs use the Tross stay bolt, or have the mud troughs? (runs and ducks for cover)

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 Post subject: Re: Lima was going to build a 4-8-6?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:21 pm 

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wilkinsd wrote:
Do the German designs use the Tross stay bolt, or have the mud troughs? (runs and ducks for cover)


http://instantrimshot.com/index.php?sound=rimshot&play=true

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:09 pm 

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Just like to say thank you to Hugh (whodom) for his kind compliments of Feb 22, 2012. I only discovered rypn the other day by chance after Googling "Kropplenburg."
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