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 Post subject: Re: WW I Railroaders
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:50 am 

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p51,

The 14th Engineers was a unit that deployed with "old" weapons. If you scroll up a little bit to where I put our unit history you will see that when we were shipped to England, we were issued the 1889 trapdoor and the 1896 Krag.
In terms of the patches, they were designed before the armistis, but you are right....it was very uncomon to see a soldier in the field with SSI until late war or after. Most of them got put on with the service stripes for ocupation forces or for shipment home. The 14th patch was desinged and designated in 1917, but was not issued until early 1918, and in all reality most likely (don't know for sure) didn't get put on until late 1918...but who knows....not me yet... :-)

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 Post subject: Re: WW I Railroaders
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:55 pm 
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jim templin wrote:
The one in Cache, OK hasn't been seen in a long time, but is supposed to still be there. The owner of the park passed a few years back, and the last I heard that place is still in limbo. I have been unable to confirm if the 0-8-0 there actually ever operated there.


I also heard that there was a fire at the amusement park site a few years ago.

So, I checked it out in Google Maps. You can quite clearly see both the fire damage and the 600 mm tracks around the park. Much of the loop of track is obscured by the woods on the west side of the park; but the fire seemed to have been confined to the center of the park. Notice also the trolley remains and some freight cars also on site:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=cache+okl ... 20&vpsrc=6

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 Post subject: Re: WW I Railroaders
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:39 pm 

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Hey everyone,
I was able to get some more pictures of the original 14th Engineers uniform. There are a few of us getting things ready to have a run of patches and uniforms made. Just wanted to see if there is any interest in anyone on here joining in with us. We have updated our web-site, and there are some good vidoes on there now. Hope that everyone is doing well

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 Post subject: Re: WW I Railroaders
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:46 pm 

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Alright, today must be trench railway day, because I keep finding things regarding the trench lines even when I'm not looking (although I did do some looking today). This is a short documentary I found on youtube a few minutes ago regarding military railroads in France during WWI.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvx5zxtIXLE

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 Post subject: Re: WW I Railroaders
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:22 pm 

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I'm trying to find information on one that was based at Ft Eustis VA in the early 1900's. I've got one photograph showing what is current day Hanks Yard, and one side is standard gauge, while the other is a mirror image using 24" trackage. The yard appears to be an assimbly line for the standard gauge, however I have seen a map (1926) of the base showing a "narrow gauge" shell desposal line running from Hanks yard down along the James River and out into an area that to this day is still off limits. The line was being used to remove ordance that was fired upon the base from Camp Wallace.

I've yet to find any other information as to what else the line may have been used for. There was also a lumber spur listed on the map but im not sure what gauge that was.

Also there is rumored to be two locomotives, narrow gauge 0-4-0's out in the mud along the river somewhere, however i've never seen them, nor has anyone else i've spoken with over the last 10 years.

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 Post subject: Re: WW I Railroaders
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:09 am 

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Jay,
Can you post the picture? I am aware of a 2' at an arsinal in AL, but have never seen anything on one at Eustis. I'll ask a contact I have there at the transportation Museum.

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 Post subject: Re: WW I Railroaders
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:14 pm 

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The image is from the transportation museum and I was told not to repost it anywhere. From the looks of it in the image it was being used only as an assembly line for standard gauge equipment, but then come the story of the shell disposal line and a map to back that up.

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 Post subject: Re: WW I Railroaders
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:28 am 

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Well I can tell you that none of the 2-6-2 or the infernal combustion (Gas mechanical) locos built for war service buit by Baldwin, Davenport, Vulcan, Plymouth or Witcomb were ever there. I'm not showing any disposition reports from the War Department of anything there durring WWI (or shortly there after).
That being said, that doesn't mean that there was nothing there. If for some reason that test railroad had been "classified" we wouldn't see too much on it. Without being able to see the picture, I would say ask the Transportation musem. They should have info on it, as the records there are very complete for stuff at Eustis.

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 Post subject: Re: WW I Railroaders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:23 am 

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This is an exerpt off the National Infantry Museum facebook page. There is also a picture of the newly restored engine on their wall:
"Number 1902 locomotive that helped haul Fort Benning Soldiers from classrooms to firing ranges between 1919 & 1946 has found it's new home on the grounds of the National Infantry Museum and Soldier Center!

This afternoon a WWII Half Track Personnel Carrier M-3, an M-59 Armored Personnel Carrier and a Bradley M2 Infantry Fighting Vehicle will also be placed behind the museum near the stadium.

Check back later today for more photos and history about these amazing additions to the museum!"

They have it decked out in a flat brown (and it doesn't look to shabby for that).
Here's a link to their wall photo gallery:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= ... 124&type=3

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 Post subject: Re: WW I Railroaders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:11 pm 

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Paint color is not correct, but oh well. It should have been painted either a field grey or black. At least it's been painted. It had been neglected for quite a few years.

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 Post subject: Re: WW I Railroaders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:45 pm 
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It figures the engine would be moved to the new museum just now. My Dad and I went there when I was in the region in September and it wasn't there at that time (the museum overall was a disappointment in that all of the best stuff that was in the old museum is now in storage, the museum is more about 'telling a story' then it is about showing the collection of artificats).

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 Post subject: Re: WW I Railroaders
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:50 pm 

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Story with photo on this 2-6-2T from the Flimsies section:

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2012/06/ ... -home.html


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 Post subject: Re: WW I Railroaders
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:54 am 

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I'm glad that it's finally got some TLC. Still in the wrong paint, but oh well. The army museum system is famous for being farbs.

Thanks for the link!

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 Post subject: Re: WW I Railroaders
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:53 pm 

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While looking for other material, came across this from the WW I era:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzYlg_a0 ... ure=relmfu

Now, if only I could find what I saw the other day. . .


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 Post subject: Re: WW I Railroaders
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:41 pm 

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Just ran into this photo showing a shop locomotive pulling a car built for WW1 export. This was in Canada at the National Steel Car Corporation Ltd.
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Un-identified narrow gauge 0-4-0T, used to handle equipment built in WWI for the British Army.
National Archives PA208472 Colin J. Churcher Collection

http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/industrial/steam/nsc.htm


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