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 Post subject: Re: ITM and NKP 587....
PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:23 pm 

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Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
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I think some Mikes were double-headed at the EBT.


And triple-headed, and a one-time-only quadruple-header years ago......


Yeah...which didn't work out so well!


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:43 pm 

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Steve Freer wrote:
Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
tomgears wrote:
I think some Mikes were double-headed at the EBT.


And triple-headed, and a one-time-only quadruple-header years ago......


Yeah...which didn't work out so well!



Do tell please. What happened?
Kevin


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:09 pm 

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Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
tomgears wrote:
I think some Mikes were double-headed at the EBT.


And triple-headed, and a one-time-only quadruple-header years ago......


Yeah...which didn't work out so well!


Kevin Gilliam wrote:
Do tell please. What happened?
Kevin


It was the tripleheader on 10/8/89 (#12,14 & 15)....seems like it uncoupled between the second and third locomotive. We were at "Runk Field" and two light locomotives came into view, backed up, returned with the rest of its consist, and continued to Colgate Grove. Nothing major, just a curiosity.

If I'm not mistaken the final "four engine" Spectacular was Y2K, but only featured doubleheaders. What year was the quadrupleheader?


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 Post subject: Re: ITM and NKP 587....
PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:29 pm 

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Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
tomgears wrote:
I think some Mikes were double-headed at the EBT.


And triple-headed, and a one-time-only quadruple-header years ago......


Tom/ADM IV -

Txhighballer stated in his comments in this thread above, that he thought that there had been "no standard gauge Mikado doubleheaders in the modern era", so EBT (and D&RGW for that matter) 3 foot gauge 2-8-2's wouldn't be applicable. I do wonder however, if perhaps some of the logging Mikes out west might not have been doubleheaded somewhere back in time.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:09 pm 

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Over the years Hammond 17, port of grays harbor 5 and CC and C 15 have all double headed. Soon, when we are done with our rebuild of the 17, we will be able to do our own mike double header again.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:10 pm 

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Les Beckman wrote:
Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
tomgears wrote:
I think some Mikes were double-headed at the EBT.


And triple-headed, and a one-time-only quadruple-header years ago......


Tom/ADM IV -

Txhighballer stated in his comments in this thread above, that he thought that there had been "no standard gauge Mikado doubleheaders in the modern era", so EBT (and D&RGW for that matter) 3 foot gauge 2-8-2's wouldn't be applicable. I do wonder however, if perhaps some of the logging Mikes out west might not have been doubleheaded somewhere back in time.

Les


Not to mention in Colorado and New Mexico (D&S and C&T) whereas K27, K28, and K36 series locomotives doublehead on a fairly regular basis to this day.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:17 pm 

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Les Beckman wrote:
Txhighballer stated in his comments in this thread above, that he thought that there had been "no standard gauge Mikado doubleheaders in the modern era", so EBT (and D&RGW for that matter) 3 foot gauge 2-8-2's wouldn't be applicable. I do wonder however, if perhaps some of the logging Mikes out west might not have been doubleheaded somewhere back in time.


To heck with that. We're all waiting for a "Rush Limbaugh doubleheader", based on his toll-free call-in number:

282 - 2882 !


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 Post subject: Re: ITM and NKP 587....
PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:21 pm 

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SouPac wrote:
Over the years Hammond 17, port of grays harbor 5 and CC and C 15 have all double headed. Soon, when we are done with our rebuild of the 17, we will be able to do our own mike double header again.

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Stathi


Thanks Stathi. I thought that might be the case, but I was not sure.


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 Post subject: Re: ITM and NKP 587....
PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:06 pm 

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nothing that a quick day crew can't cut in a new switch somewhere when needed...

and them temporary rail switches etc...


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This is somewhat tangential, but what is the status of the traction collection at ITM? Is the museum still planning on restoring some form of electric operation in the future?

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Frank Hicks wrote:
This is somewhat tangential, but what is the status of the traction collection at ITM? Is the museum still planning on restoring some form of electric operation in the future?


Frank -

Good question. I've wondered about that myself. I rode the line once. CTA 4000's maybe? Perhaps the question needs its own separate thread.

Les


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:40 pm 

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Les Beckman wrote:
SouPac wrote:
Over the years Hammond 17, port of grays harbor 5 and CC and C 15 have all double headed. Soon, when we are done with our rebuild of the 17, we will be able to do our own mike double header again.

Best

Stathi


Thanks Stathi. I thought that might be the case, but I was not sure.


Les



Aahhhh...I stand corrected in a good way......


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:16 am 

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Txhighballer wrote:
As far as I know, there have been no standard guage Mikado doubleheaders in the modern era....


SouPac wrote:
Over the years Hammond 17, port of grays harbor 5 and CC and C 15 have all double headed. Soon, when we are done with our rebuild of the 17, we will be able to do our own mike double header again.

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Stathi


Aside from a Mikado doubleheader with 2-8-2T #17 (which I'm not even sure if I've seen that), I haven't seen a standard-gauge Mikado doubleheader (tender locomotives ONLY)...until yesterday.

Yesterday, at the Valley Railroad, they doubleheaded 2-8-2 #40 & 2-8-2 #3025 for their 2:00 & 3:30 trains. Here's a link to a video of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1azhK6vZcUY

I think this is an absolutely beautiful doubleheader. Well done, Valley Railroad. I hope this isn't the last time we see this.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:39 pm 

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dinwitty wrote:
nothing that a quick day crew can't cut in a new switch somewhere when needed...

and them temporary rail switches etc...



I made a trip down into the area last week and it looks to be worse than I thought. Track has been pulled up to Yandes Street which is the leg of the old wye. So not only do you need a switch onto the CSX (NYC) main but about 4,000 feet of track needs to be re-installed. At this point, the plan to put in a bridge at 10th Street and re-install the track on the Port Authority's ROW might make more sense as it gets both ITM and the Port closer to their goal of servicing Union Station.

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