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 Post subject: Re: From Rochelle IL and doing Whitcomb Locomotive Research
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:16 pm 
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Whitcomb locomotives enroute to delivery, DeKalb, IL. near the Chicago & North Western coal chute. Date: 1949, photograph by W.W. Embree courtesy of the NIU Regional History Center.

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 Post subject: Re: From Rochelle IL and doing Whitcomb Locomotive Research
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General Steel Castings had at least three "No 1s" delivered from Whitcomb, each at a different location. The 1949 unit was a 50 tonner, 61092, 8/49, and it went to their Eddystone PA plant. the ones in back appear to be export units.


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 Post subject: Re: From Rochelle IL and doing Whitcomb Locomotive Research
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Posted this shot of a Whitcomb 80 tonner at RRPA.net; it's marked for Pantex Plant, which is NE of Amarillo; but is on the Santa Fe at Hereford TX. It appears as if it's former Navy; although its true identity eludes me for now.
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 Post subject: Re: From Rochelle IL and doing Whitcomb Locomotive Research
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:30 pm 
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Rick Morgan wrote:
General Steel Castings had at least three "No 1s" delivered from Whitcomb, each at a different location. The 1949 unit was a 50 tonner, 61092, 8/49, and it went to their Eddystone PA plant. the ones in back appear to be export units.

Can you verify this information? Where did it come from?

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 Post subject: Re: From Rochelle IL and doing Whitcomb Locomotive Research
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:02 pm 
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Whitcomb locomotives - I believe for export to Argentina, 1949, probably DeKalb area. Note broken windows - vandalism post WW II.

Ambree collection, NIU Regional History Center.

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A photo of Waite W. Embree of DeKalb, IL who took these photos and his family donated them to NIU in March, 1967.

From NIU Regional History Center collection.

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 Post subject: Re: From Rochelle IL and doing Whitcomb Locomotive Research
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Steve -

From the looks of the diaphragm on the back end of the cab of the Whitcomb export units for Argentina, may we assume that they were meant to be run back to back? Also, any idea if any of these units still exist today?

Also neat to see that the units were shipped on Erie 6 wheel truck flat cars 7232 and 7233. Our museum is on the old Erie Railroad right-of-way in North Judson, so always like seeing Erie equipment in service. Sure would like to have one of those flats at Hoosier Valley!

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 Post subject: Re: From Rochelle IL and doing Whitcomb Locomotive Research
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Are there any drawings of A WHITCOMB 65Ton loco?

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 Post subject: Re: From Rochelle IL and doing Whitcomb Locomotive Research
PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:09 pm 
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Are there any drawings of A WHITCOMB 65Ton loco?

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machinehead61 wrote:
Another banner day. Just received these from a member at the Train Board forum.

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A quick glance and I find that all units ran the same Buda engines. Also, all amored units were put at 3 tons of armor plate above the non-armor listing.

These internet forums are proving to be an absolute blessing in my research.

THANK YOU RAILWAY PRESERVATION NEWS !

Steve


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 Post subject: Re: From Rochelle IL and doing Whitcomb Locomotive Research
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Way back in 1972 Don Dover printed in Extra 2200 South what was probably the first good description of Whitcomb 65T designs. The Sept/Oct '72 edition (issue no.36)had a side profile of the familiar Army 65-DE-19A along with a good description of the type and list of original owners, of which there were only seven or so for 270 total Whitcomb-built 65 tonners during WWII.


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 Post subject: Re: From Rochelle IL and doing Whitcomb Locomotive Research
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One of these 65ton Whitcombs is available for donation now for someone who has the means to truck it or flatcar it from Iowa. Running condition.

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 Post subject: Re: From Rochelle IL and doing Whitcomb Locomotive Research
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arjay3 wrote:
One of these 65ton Whitcombs is available for donation now for someone who has the means to truck it or flatcar it from Iowa. Running condition.

Rich
arjay3@mac.com

Where and who would we contact?


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 Post subject: Re: From Rochelle IL and doing Whitcomb Locomotive Research
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I gave my email. Contact me there and I can give you what info and pictures I have.
Rich

machinehead61 wrote:
arjay3 wrote:
One of these 65ton Whitcombs is available for donation now for someone who has the means to truck it or flatcar it from Iowa. Running condition.

Rich
arjay3@mac.com

Where and who would we contact?


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 Post subject: Re: From Rochelle IL and doing Whitcomb Locomotive Research
PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:00 pm 
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arjay3 wrote:
I gave my email. Contact me there and I can give you what info and pictures I have.
Rich

So far I have heard nothing. Does anyone else know anything about a Whitcomb 65 ton locomotive in Iowa?

The most recent reference I can find per Google search is from 2007 in a rail fan forum:

http://twincitiesrailfan.com/forums/vie ... =23&t=1085

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A nice find on the north end of town this Whitcomb 65 Ton sits just west of the ILSX unit used at the Leigh cement plant


This is Mason City, Iowa. Does anyone know if that Whitcomb is still there?

Another reference from 2007:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8854749@N03/1392521509/



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 Post subject: Re: From Rochelle IL and doing Whitcomb Locomotive Research
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Steve,
I sent you pictures and contact info two days ago. Resent again now.

Rich

So far I have heard nothing. Does anyone else know anything about a Whitcomb 65 ton locomotive in Iowa?

The most recent reference I can find per Google search is from 2007 in a rail fan forum:

http://twincitiesrailfan.com/forums/vie ... =23&t=1085

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A nice find on the north end of town this Whitcomb 65 Ton sits just west of the ILSX unit used at the Leigh cement plant


This is Mason City, Iowa. Does anyone know if that Whitcomb is still there?

Another reference from 2007:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8854749@N03/1392521509/



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 Post subject: Re: From Rochelle IL and doing Whitcomb Locomotive Research
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:42 pm 
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arjay3 wrote:
Steve,
I sent you pictures and contact info two days ago. Resent again now.

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Thank you very much Rich, I just received your email. Apparently the first one never reached my inbox. I will contact the gentleman tomorrow and go from there.

Very thrilled to find one of these rare WW II veteran locomotives and fairly close to Rochelle. Will try like crazy to get this one saved and brought back home where it was built. I wonder what happened to the original Buda engines, probably junked.

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