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 Post subject: How do you hide a 2-10-4?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:54 pm 

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A friend and I just spent 30 minutes examining the 2012 Google Earth images of the PA&MRR property at McKees Rocks, PA, looking for B&LE 2-10-4 643. We could not identify anything on that property that looked like a steam loco.

Has it been moved elsewhere, or back indoors? (Or worse yet........"terminated?")


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 Post subject: Re: How do you hide a 2-10-4?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:10 pm 

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My search of Google Maps finds it. Here are the coordinates:

40.470999, -80.057112
40°28'15.6"N 80°03'25.6"W

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 Post subject: Re: How do you hide a 2-10-4?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:35 pm 

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What is on the rails behind 643? A diesel locomotive and some kind of railroad car?

-Mark


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 Post subject: Re: How do you hide a 2-10-4?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:41 pm 

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Still there. The most recent picture I have is from September 2013. Taken through the fence so please excuse the quality.

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Behind the engine sits an Alco switcher. Behind that is an aux. water tender build from an L&N 2-8-4 tender.


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 Post subject: Re: How do you hide a 2-10-4?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:09 pm 

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we've discussed this engine to death here, we're all kinda wait and see for something to happen.


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 Post subject: Re: How do you hide a 2-10-4?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:48 pm 

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It's now landlocked and there's a very strong chance that eventually it will be scrapped in place. Yes, it has been discussed here at length previously.

Ross Rowland


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 Post subject: Re: How do you hide a 2-10-4?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:53 pm 

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Why assume the worst? Let's pray someone with vision is ready to grab her for service.

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 Post subject: Re: How do you hide a 2-10-4?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:46 pm 

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co614 wrote:
It's now landlocked and there's a very strong chance that eventually it will be scrapped in place. Yes, it has been discussed here at length previously.

Ross Rowland



doubt anyone would be stupid enough to scrap a steamer that large this day in age..


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 Post subject: Re: How do you hide a 2-10-4?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:48 pm 

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 Post subject: Re: How do you hide a 2-10-4?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:06 pm 

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One of the older posts about this locomotive;

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30780&p=153388&hilit=B%26LE+643+cost+%24+%24#p153388

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 Post subject: Re: How do you hide a 2-10-4?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:13 am 

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someone posted there was work being done to operate on former B&LE trackage.

Landlocked doesnt mean the end of the line, he's run the engine on air and could move it snap track wherever. Anything we say here is guessing. IRM moved the Sante FE 4-8-4 from the Museum of Science and Industry via snap track over city streets, anything's possible.


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 Post subject: Re: How do you hide a 2-10-4?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:42 am 

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dinwitty wrote:
Landlocked doesnt mean the end of the line, he's run the engine on air and could move it snap track wherever. Anything we say here is guessing. IRM moved the Sante FE 4-8-4 from the Museum of Science and Industry via snap track over city streets, anything's possible with bucketloads of money, a cooperative locomotive owner, and cooperative property owners.

Fixed that for you..............


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 Post subject: Re: How do you hide a 2-10-4?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:51 am 

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Mr. Mitchell says it very well. In this case all 3 of the critical components are missing!!

Ross Rowland


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 Post subject: Re: How do you hide a 2-10-4?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:47 am 

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It's really down to buckets of money and owner cooperation. More the owner cooperation is the nut that needs to be cracked. As far as the site owners are concerned they are very willing to see it worked on and some of us who do care about 643 make a annual run over to the "rocks" to lube and oil the locomotive to keep her limbered up even if the owner does not care to do it. So if you can crack the nut with the owner you might be able to go for the pot of gold you'll need to make it run.

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 Post subject: Re: How do you hide a 2-10-4?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:19 am 

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nkpsteam779 wrote:
some of us who do care about 643 make a annual run over to the "rocks" to lube and oil the locomotive to keep her limbered up even if the owner does not care to do it


While I understand the sentiment I'm not sure trespassing on private property to work on a locomotive which isn't yours is the best way to get on the positive side of the owner.


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