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 Post subject: Surviving DL&W "Boonton" Coaches List
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 8:34 pm 

I've compiled a list of surviving Delaware, Lackawanna & Western RR steel suburban "Boonton" passenger coaches and combines. It is fairly complete except as noted. If any have been missed or missing data can be shared concerning cars in the list below, please post on this thread. The numbers that follow the owners are the original DL&W numbers.

Illinois Ry Museum, Union, Ill.
556
561
567

Kettle Moraine Ry, North Lake, WI
573
583

Wanamaker, Kempton & Southern RR, Kempton, Pa.
582

Mid-Continent Ry Museum, North Freedom, WI
557
563
595
425 (combine)
584?
593?

Arcade and Attica RR, Arcade, NY
414 (combine)
424 (combine)
611
574
417 (combine)
616
552
600

Knox & Kane RR (ex-LA&L, ex-Gettysburg RR), Marienville, Pa.
2501 (Combine; This is the E-L #; orig. DL&W is unknown)

Valley RR Co., Essex, CT
565
615
577
551

Wilmington & Western RR, Marshallton, DE
410 (combine)
571
581
603

Wawa & Concordville RR (defunct), Concordville, Pa.
568 (scrapped c.1970s)
570 (scrapped c. 1970s)
604 (scrapped c.1980-81)
684 (scrapped c.1970s)

Black River & Western RR, Ringoes, NJ
610 (converted to open-air car No. 301)
___? (original DL&W # unknown; now open air #302)
___? (original DL&W # unknown; now coach No. 303)
___? (original DL&W # unknown; now coach No. 304)
___? (original DL&W # unknown; now coach No. 305)

Steamtown NHS, Scranton, Pa.
550
580
589
613

Private owner, Honesdale, Pa.?
548 (Was ex-Conrail office at Portland, Pa.)

TOTAL PRESERVED 6 combines

33 coaches

4 scrapped (in preservation era)

Any additional information is greatly appreciated.

K.R. Bell
RR Museum of PA



http://rrmuseumpa.org


  
 
 Post subject: FW&W/Tarantula?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 9:30 pm 

What about 206, 207, 208 and 209 at Tarantula Train? I know they are DL&W cars that came to Tarantula/FW&W by way of Strasburg--whether they are Boonton line coaches, electric trailers or depowered electric power cars I know not (my grasp of the finer points of DL&W commuter equipment is not everything it should be).

eledbetter@rypn.org


  
 
 Post subject: Portland Car and two more?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 10:04 pm 

Kurt.

So the Portland car is in Honesdale? Any details on the who, what and where?

Were the DL&W/B&M cars at Edaville Boontons? If so, the combine is a tavern on Martha's Vineyard and the coach is near Sunapee, NH.

Nice list!

Rob


trains@robertjohndavis.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: FW&W/Tarantula?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 10:17 pm 

Erik,

I've decided not to include the DL&W electric m.u. cars, only the steel suburban passenger coaches even though some of the earlier Boontons were rebuilt into m.u.'s. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

K.R. Bell

> What about 206, 207, 208 and 209 at
> Tarantula Train? I know they are DL&W
> cars that came to Tarantula/FW&W by way
> of Strasburg--whether they are Boonton line
> coaches, electric trailers or depowered
> electric power cars I know not (my grasp of
> the finer points of DL&W commuter
> equipment is not everything it should be).


http://rrmuseumpa.org


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Portland Car and two more?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 10:40 pm 

I believe there is a Boonton combine from Gettysburg at Middletown & Hummelstown. At least the M&H was supposed to be buying it. And I don't think the two cars at Edaville were Boontons. They were older wooden cars sheathed with steel, I think.

K4s1361@hotmail.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Surviving DL&W "Boonton" Coaches List
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 11:35 pm 

> I've compiled a list of surviving Delaware,
> Lackawanna & Western RR steel suburban
> "Boonton" passenger coaches and
> combines. It is fairly complete except as
> noted. If any have been missed or missing
> data can be shared concerning cars in the
> list below, please post on this thread. The
> numbers that follow the owners are the
> original DL&W numbers.

I know the three at IRM have been repainted but still carry the correct DL&W paint and lettering scheme as operating historical artifacts. Out of curiousity how many of the other do?

pjslks@ix.netcom.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Surviving DL&W "Boonton" Coaches List
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 11:59 pm 

> I know the three at IRM have been repainted
> but still carry the correct DL&W paint
> and lettering scheme as operating historical
> artifacts. Out of curiousity how many of the
> other do?

The Mid-Continent cars are properly restored as "Lackawanna" cars.

The Edaville-B&M-DL&W cars were early (1910-1912?)steel cars, with open platforms; they were not steel-sheathed wood cars. They had the early Pullman Company standing-seam steel roof. The three MU club cars that were in service at the end of DL&W MU operation in 1984 were of the same type, but with closed vestibules for MU operation.

Nice list-- how about CNJ 1000-1100 series clerestory roof coaches next??

hpincus@mindspring.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Portland Car and two more?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 1:53 am 

> I believe there is a Boonton combine from
> Gettysburg at Middletown & Hummelstown.

You're right - I remember seeing that car last July. I didn't get the number, though, and the car is painted in some Gettysburg RR livery of grey, blue and maroon. I think M&H may have acquired it pretty recently.

Frank Hicks

fullparallel@wideopenwest.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Surviving DL&W "Boonton" Coaches List
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 10:02 am 

Kurt,

How sure are you about the ones at Wawa and Concordville? I only remember the 604 being there and have super 8 film of the place running with only the 604 and the converted boxcars. As a side note one of the trucks from 604 is now under the 410 at W&W. I would be happy to share the old films if you would like to see them.

Tom


tgears1@comcast.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Surviving DL&W "Boonton" Coaches List
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 10:09 am 

Dear Tom,

I have copies of the W&C's records and over 100 photos of the operation, all of which show the four Boonton cars. I'm writing a history of the W&C for our journal, MILEPOST which will tell the entire W&C story. 604 was used on the excursion train dureing cold weather and the other three were acquired for an ill-fated gift shop complex; they were stored on a siding adjacent to the Concordville station; they were cut up in the late 1970s. My primary contacts were the former President/founder and a former V.P. of Operations. The W&C Boonton car information has been verified and is accurate.

K.R. Bell
RR Museum of PA

> Kurt,

> How sure are you about the ones at Wawa and
> Concordville? I only remember the 604 being
> there and have super 8 film of the place
> running with only the 604 and the converted
> boxcars. As a side note one of the trucks
> from 604 is now under the 410 at W&W. I
> would be happy to share the old films if you
> would like to see them.

> Tom


http://rrmuseumpa.org


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Surviving DL&W "Boonton" Coaches List *PIC*
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 10:32 am 

I was an interim owner of the 425 combine between private owner C.A. Wiesner and Mid-Continent. It was originally acquired for a proposed trade to Steamtown NHS that fell through. Steamtown still has no Boonton combines.

Steve Zuiderveen

> I've compiled a list of surviving Delaware,
> Lackawanna & Western RR steel suburban
> "Boonton" passenger coaches and
> combines. It is fairly complete except as
> noted. If any have been missed or missing
> data can be shared concerning cars in the
> list below, please post on this thread. The
> numbers that follow the owners are the
> original DL&W numbers.



MCRM DL&W 425 Page
Image
SZuidervee@aol.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Surviving DL&W "Boonton" Coaches List
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 12:54 pm 

As I'm sure you already know, Tom, we repainted the #603 and #571 to match the paint scheme on #410 and #581 this past summer. It was pretty cool sanding down the old W&W blue and yellow and finding "Lackawanna" underneath. Seth


Wilmington & Western Railroad
sethajackson@hotmail.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Surviving DL&W "Boonton" Coaches List
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 1:00 pm 

Kurt,

I forgot about the gift shop. I was only thinking of the train operation. I am glad you are putting together a history of the W&C. Like I said earlier I have some super 8 film of the train running there. I also have some photos of #37's side tank being sandblasted and the old Pacific Lumber lettering showing through. Let me know if you (or anyone else online) are interested in those.

Tom



tgears1@comcast.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Surviving DL&W "Boonton" Coaches List
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 1:01 pm 

Seth,

Yes, they look great! I was down over the holidays to drop some stuff off and I visited the shop.

Tom


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Surviving DL&W "Boonton" Coaches List
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 1:05 pm 

> Dear Kurt:
For your information:
DL&W 565 = VRR 500 (grill car)
DL&W 615 = VRR 501
DL&W 577 = VRR 502
DL&W 551 = VRR 503
Also, at onr time there was a fifth DL&W car (number unknown) here, scrapped c. 1980.
J.David

jdconrad@snet.net


  
 
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