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 Post subject: Preserved 1970s Passenger GE
PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:44 pm 

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This came in on my Facebook page:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=504148

I remember when these were new. Has it been that long?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:53 pm 

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What is the covered wagon in front of her?
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 Post subject: Re: Preserved 1970s Passenger GE
PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:57 pm 

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J3a-614 wrote:
This came in on my Facebook page:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=504148

I remember when these were new. Has it been that long?


Much as I hate to admit it, yes.

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 Post subject: Re: Preserved 1970s Passenger GE
PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:27 pm 

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crij wrote:
What is the covered wagon in front of her?
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It looks like an Alco FA, probably off the Long Island, but I can't say any more beyond that.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:29 pm 

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"but I can't say any more beyond that."

Cannot or may not?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:19 pm 

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Searching railpictures for the same location shows an Alco FA. I attached the link.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 775&nseq=2


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 Post subject: Re: Preserved 1970s Passenger GE
PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:38 pm 

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superheater wrote:
"but I can't say any more beyond that."

Cannot or may not?


Cannot because I'm not familiar with what's there.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:43 pm 

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jdorn wrote:
Searching railpictures for the same location shows an Alco FA. I attached the link.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 775&nseq=2


Some other interesting things there, including that Erie bay-window caboose, a Geep in Erie inspired paint, and of course the FA.

Now, what's behind the caboose? A passenger car or another covered wagon of some sort?

And it turns out this road had more than one black and yellow Erie looking Geep:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 436&nseq=3

More fiddling around brought up this photo of the FA, which the caption writer says is ex-NP:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 16&nseq=28

Road has or had an RS-3, too:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 71&nseq=23


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:05 am 

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[quote="J3a-614"][quote="jdorn"]Searching railpictures for the same location shows an Alco FA. I attached the link.
More fiddling around brought up this photo of the FA, which the caption writer says is ex-NP:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 16&nseq=28

Better re-read, former SP&S. After that LIRR and a brief stint on the Quebec Central.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:11 pm 

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That item hiding behind the caboose in blue is a coach of some kind.

This equipment belongs to the shuttered New York & Greenwood Lake Railway. They also own the Erie 833 that attended the Streamliner even in Spencer.

The owner of the NY&GL operated this small branch line hauling recycled paper to or from one customer. Then the construction debris transload industry took off in NJ. The large building in the background of some of the photos was the transload facility constructed on this line. It is literally right in the middle of the city. They made a good buck switching the facility. Then as the market continued to heat up the owner sold to a garbage hauler.

He then wanted to move his equipment to Port Jervis, NY and run a dinner or passenger train in that area. He bought additional locomotives and passenger cars.

The transload facility in Passaic burned and the garbage hauler sued the former owner and I am unsure of the outcome of that litigation. The passenger service never jelled and the equipment just sits silently. I am honestly amazed that vandalism of the equipment hasn't seemed to occur at the Passaic facility. But I am also happy the U34CH has been moved to Boonton.

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 Post subject: Re: Preserved 1970s Passenger GE
PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:05 am 
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New York & Greenwood Lake owns:

SOU 52 seat coach #843 (P-S, Lot #W6991, Plan #W52838, 1958), leased to Amtrak 1979 as #5296, to NS #843, lower fluting replaced with smooth sides, painted Tuscan Red and named Crescent, sold to NYS&W #536, sold to NYGL #536. In Port Jervis, 4/27/2013: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3457630 (Philip M. Goldstein photo)

NYC 10RM-6DB sleeper #10174 St. Regis River (P-S, Lot #6790, Plan #4123, 1949) sold to CN #2083 Riviere Rouge (1965) to VIA #2083 sold c. 1982 to Jack Deasy and reconfigured to 6DB sleeper buffet lounge St. Regis River (#800272) later sold to NYGL, bedrooms reduced to 4, and renamed Chestnut Hill. In Passaic, 9/10/2005: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=186785 (Juan Alvarez photo)

C&NW 24 seat diner 29 seat lounge #7802 (AC&F, Lot #3039, 1949, Overland Pool) to MofW #X-301033 (1970) sold to Iowa Interstate (IAIS) #7802 Iowa River to Wisconsin & Calumet (WICT) #7802 Iowa River to Owego & Harford RY (OHRY) #7802 to NYGL #950. In Port Jervis, 10/31/2007: http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=937917 (Michael Foley photo)

IC 56 seat chair #2625 Ponchatoula (P-S, Lot #6766, Plan #7531, 1947) sold to Black Hills Central (1971) to Iowa Interstate (IAIS) #2625 Silver River to Wisconsin & Calumet (WICT) #2625 Silver River to Owego & Harford RY (OHRY) #2625 to NYGL #2995, reconfigured to a table car. In Port Jervis, 10/31/2007:http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=937915 (Michael Foley photo)

Baggage NYGL #200. Does anybody know the history/identity of this car? Thanks in advance! In Passaic, 5/21/2007: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=793503 (Michael Foley photo)

CN business car Atlantic to NYGL #3 Pride of the Delaware, painted in VIA Blue & Yellow. Can anybody provide the full history of this car, perhaps Richard (Parlourcar)? Builder, year, Lot, Plan? Thanks in advance!

3 photos of the #3 Pride of the Delaware:

In Lackawaxen, 5/26/2007: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=793482 (Michael Foley photo)

In Port Jervis, 8/18/2007: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=849572 (Kevin Painter photo)

In Port Jervis, 6/13/2009: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1637681 (Bob Vogel photo)

The LIRR FA1 turned power car was built in February 1949 as SP&S #860A (serial #76675), to BN #4108, to LIRR #616, to TTCA #616, to NYGL #7375. In Passaic, 10/29/2014, during the move of the U34CH: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4017633 (Paul Koprowski photo)

Sources:

1. "Streamliner Cars Volume One: Pullman Standard" by W. David Randall (RPC Publications, 1981)

2. "Streamliner Cars Volume Three: ACF - Other Builders" by W. David Randall (RPC Publications, 1982)

3. Jerry LaBoda's photo links database: http://passcarphotos.info/

4. IC passenger car roster pages: http://icrr.net/passenger.htm

5. IC passenger car diagram folio of June 1952, found on Thomas S. Parker's website: http://www.illinois-central.net/

6. Terry Link's NYC passenger car roster pages: http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/NYC-MODELS-PASS.htm

7. Stan Garner's list of #800xxx-series numbers: http://www.movie-trains.com/pvlist.html

8. Don Strack's UP passenger car roster pages: http://utahrails.net/pass/pass-index.php

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 Post subject: Re: Preserved 1970s Passenger GE
PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:23 pm 

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Baggage NYGL #200. Does anybody know the history/identity of this car? Thanks in advance! In Passaic, 5/21/2007: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... ?id=793503 (Michael Foley photo)


Can't say for sure, but the rounded roof suggests this might be a Reading car. The rolled reinforcing member running down the side of the car (at a height roughly midway through the doors, just below where the windows would be in a coach or sleeper) and the deep letterboard suggest Pullman construction.

The wheels have that light color of rust that suggests they are new, or at least newly installed.

Hope this car finds a good home; too often this sort of rolling stock is neglected in collections, and can be quite useful if some Class I excursion operation (such as Ross Rowland's proposed Greenbriar Express) ever gets going; would think such cars might be handy for storage, too.


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