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 Post subject: Any remaining Baldwin AS-16s?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:28 pm 

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This is probably old news but I have no sources or books with any such information and I'm to young to have seen them in Class 1 operation so, are there any As-16s still around?

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 Post subject: Re: Any remaining Baldwin AS-16s?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:41 pm 

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For the record, there were 127 AS-16's built by Baldwin between 1950 and 1955.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:49 pm 

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As in AS-616?

Yes.

https://www.psrm.org/trains/diesel/oreg ... western-1/

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 Post subject: Re: Any remaining Baldwin AS-16s?
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IRM has Columbus & Greenville 606, a AS-416. I do not believe it's operable at this time.

http://www.irm.org/cgi-bin/rsearch.cgi?diesel=Columbus+&+Greenville=606

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 Post subject: Re: Any remaining Baldwin AS-16s?
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According to the information @ Baldwin Diesel Zone:

75499 5/52 B&O 901 O Minnesota Commercial St. Paul, MN T1 converted to a slug BDZ Slug Roster

So does a slug count? There's either one or none.


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AS-416 #1616 from the original Norfolk Southern is on display in the roundhouse at the North Carolina Transportation Museum in Spencer NC.


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 Post subject: Re: Any remaining Baldwin AS-16s?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:43 pm 

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superheater wrote:
According to the information @ Baldwin Diesel Zone:

75499 5/52 B&O 901 O Minnesota Commercial St. Paul, MN T1 converted to a slug BDZ Slug Roster

So does a slug count? There's either one or none.

Interesting. Do you have any photos?

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 Post subject: Re: Any remaining Baldwin AS-16s?
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Seems to be a bit of confusion. AS-16's had B-B (4 wheel) trucks. AS-416's had A-1-A (6 wheel) trucks. AS-616's had C-C (6 wheel) trucks. The original question was about the AS-16. Of the 127 AS-16's built, I don't believe any survive.

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 Post subject: Re: Any remaining Baldwin AS-16s?
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There's A Baldwin In Rio de Janeiro, Brazil at the Barão de Mauá station (Only Baldwin known to exist in the country AFAIK) Never will see the rails again most likely.

Baldwin Locomotive AS- 616 " amazes Demon " in bad shape

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http://rcabredo.blogspot.com/2010/08/es ... ldina.html

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 Post subject: Re: Any remaining Baldwin AS-16s?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:31 pm 

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There are three AS-616s on SMS Railway in New Jersey, but the original question was regarding AS-16s.


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How different are the AS-14, AS 416 and AS-616 from each other? Is it just a matter of trucks?

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It is the trucks and number of traction motors per truck.


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 Post subject: Re: Any remaining Baldwin AS-16s?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:06 pm 

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Interesting. If the AS-16 is in fact extinct, perhaps a stand-in could be made from an AS-416 or AS-616, just by swapping trucks.

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 Post subject: Re: Any remaining Baldwin AS-16s?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:21 pm 

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CameronW wrote:
Ddatrainman wrote:
There's A Baldwin In Rio de Janeiro, Brazil at the Barão de Mauá station (Only Baldwin known to exist in the country AFAIK) Never will see the rails again most likely.

Baldwin Locomotive AS- 616 " amazes Demon " in bad shape

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http://rcabredo.blogspot.com/2010/08/es ... ldina.html


I may beg to differ on that claim trainman. As someone who had lived in Sao Paulo for two years I can tell you that there are at least two more AS-616s in the country. There was another one located in Minas Gerais operating in worn shape at a cement plant. The other unit was located near Sao Paulo at the time but virtually stripped of all useable parts and is now a shell awaiting complete scrapping. Otherwise I will try to see if I have any photos from when I looked around the FEPASA shops but thats all I can tell you.
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Thanks Cameron I did not know that, I discovered this stuff a few months back looking up exports and was trying to figure out if any other were around always great to learn about these locomotives.

Interesting no AS16s seem to exist

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 Post subject: Re: Any remaining Baldwin AS-16s?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:15 pm 
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junior wrote:
There are three AS-616s on SMS Railway in New Jersey, but the original question was regarding AS-16s.

Atleast one of those is operating, not sure of the plans for the other two. Those would be the ex-Trona units.


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