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 Post subject: Rapido Trains Inc purchased former VIA Rail Canada RDC #6133
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:22 pm 

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Model train manufacturer Rapido Trains Inc. has purchased and saved former VIA Rail Canada RDC #6133.

Details are on Rapido's website: Saving RDC 6133


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Didn't they also purchase a sleeping car recently too? Big step from models to the real thing!


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 Post subject: Re: Rapido Trains Inc purchased former VIA Rail Canada RDC #
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Yes,they did. Pullman Standard built CN "Edmundston" #1114 built in 1954. This is a 4 section-8 duplex roomette-4 double bedroom car.

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 Post subject: Re: Rapido Trains Inc purchased former VIA Rail Canada RDC #
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http://rapidotrains.com/6133/

There MAY be others available. Can you budget around C$25,000?


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 Post subject: Re: Rapido Trains Inc purchased former VIA Rail Canada RDC #
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:27 am 

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Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
http://rapidotrains.com/6133/

There MAY be others available. Can you budget around C$25,000?


Well in that case Mitchell don't forget Lehigh Valley #41 which is also still in Moncton.

http://forums.railfan.net/forums.cgi?bo ... 1034044717


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:47 am 

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Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
http://rapidotrains.com/6133/

There MAY be others available. Can you budget around C$25,000?


Which in current conversion to USD is $17,642. Not too shabby.

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 Post subject: Re: Rapido Trains Inc purchased former VIA Rail Canada RDC #
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:06 am 

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There is an ongoing thread, I think in Loco Notes, that all the IRSI RDCs have been sold to a scrapper and are in danger. Apparently the scrapper is holding off on cutting them in half for ease of transport to his facility.

"Good news" is that apparently the IRSI penchant for overcharging for RDCs is now out of the picture as they don't own them any more. But now is CERTAINLY a good time to acquire RDCs, with the available window perhaps very short.

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 Post subject: Re: Rapido Trains Inc purchased former VIA Rail Canada RDC #
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:31 pm 

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To point out:

Rapido did not disclose the actual acquisition price, but said it sought $25K in relocation costs plus another $20K for restoration. That's Canadian dollars.

I assume anyone that wants to grab one is going to be in the hole for at least $25K U.S. But aside from playing "vulture" on already-preserved RDCs owned by another group, this may be your last chance to grab one if you have any use for a "modern-day doodlebug" on your operation.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:32 pm 

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Here my list of RDC's that have been rostered IRS. Some gems including a couple that were completed here in Canada by Canadian Car and Foundry. Hopefully any corrections, will be of cars that have been re-manufactured and back in service.


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 Post subject: Re: Rapido Trains Inc purchased former VIA Rail Canada RDC #
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Thanks, Richard, for the IRS RDC roster! For the "Lot Code" column, here are the Budd Lot numbers which were not included:

CN #D107/#6107/VIA #6107 was built in Lot #9681-212, ordered 6/57, delivered 10/57, completed by CC&F 4/58.

CN #D201/#6201/#6122/VIA #6122 was built in Lot #9682-212, ordered 6/57, delivered 10/57 or 11/57, completed by CC&F 5/58.

CP #9051/VIA #6128/BC Rail #6128 was built in Lot #9681-149, ordered 8/53, delivered 10/53.

CP #9057/VIA #6130/IRS #6130/Farmrail #6130 (leased to VIA as #6130) was built in Lot #9681-177, ordered 7/55, delivered 9/55.

The subject of this thread, Dominion Atlantic (DAR) #9058/CP #9058/VIA #6133/IRS #6133/Rapido #6133 was built in Lot #9681-188, ordered 2/56, delivered 7/56 or 8/56.

CP #9067/VIA #6136 was built in Lot #9681-204, ordered 9/56, delivered 3/57.

CP #9050/VIA #6137 was built in Lot #9681-149, same as #9051/#6128.

CN #D202/#6202/VIA #6202 was built in Lot #9682-212, same as #D201/#6201/#6122.

B&M #6200/CN #D206/#6206/VIA #6206 was built in Lot #9682-161, ordered 7/54, delivered between 1/55 and 3/55.

CP #9104/CN #6207/VIA #6207 was built in Lot #9682-185, ordered 1/56, delivered 6/56 or 7/56.

CP #9195/CN #6208/VIA #6208/IRS #6208/VIA #6208 was built in Lot #9682-212 (same as CN #D201 and #D202), ordered 6/57, delivered 9/57 or 10/57, completed by CC&F 2/58.

CP #9105/VIA #6212 was built in Lot #9682-185, same as #9104.

CP #9103/VIA #6213 was built in Lot #9682-185, same as #9104 and #9105.

CP #9022/VIA #6216 was built not in Lot #9682-165, but #9683-165. #9683-165 consisted of #9021 and #9022, and #9682-165 consisted of #9100 and #9101. All 4 cars were ordered 1/55 and delivered 3/55.

CP #9115/VIA #6217/ISA #6217/VIA #6217 was built in Lot #9682-212, same as CN #D201, #D202, and CP #9195. Completed by CC&F 5/58.

CP #9111/VIA #6219/ISA #6219/VIA #6219 was built in Lot #9682-203, ordered 9/56, delivered 10/56.

CP #9021/VIA #6222 was built not in Lot #9682-165, but #9683-165, same as #9022.

CP #9024/VIA #6223 was built in Lot #9683-185, ordered 1/56, delivered 7/56.

CP #9023/VIA #6357/#6224 was built in Lot #9683-177, ordered 7/55, delivered 9/55.

CP #9251/D. A. Walmsley & Company (DAWX) #9251/VIA #6251/ISA #6251/VIA #6251 was built in Lot #9684-185, ordered 1/56, delivered 7/56.

PGE #BC-12/BC Rail #BC-12 was built in Lot #9681-190, ordered 3/56, delivered 8/56.

Sources:

1. "Streamliner Cars Volume Two: The Budd Company" by W. David Randall (RPC Publications, 1981)

2. Jerry LaBoda's photo links database: http://passcarphotos.info

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 Post subject: Re: Rapido Trains Inc purchased former VIA Rail Canada RDC #
PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:23 pm 

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As of recently I've sent over a message to the IRSI regarding the condition and cost of ex-LV RDC-2 #41. According to previous sources they've had it last valued at 150k CDN following an extensive overhaul by their own shopmen in the early 2000s and won't budge on price. However after more than 10 years on idle and rusting away maybe they'd see a change in thought given someone here would take interest in it. On a counter note I don't blame the Rapido guys one bit for their decision and think it will be just as great to see an original D&A unit operating as well,

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Is LV #41 in any immediate danger?

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Good thing I'm broke, or I'd be in trouble with the wife for trying to buy the MKT car!

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 Post subject: Re: Rapido Trains Inc purchased former VIA Rail Canada RDC #
PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:22 pm 

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Reading T1 2124 wrote:
Is LV #41 in any immediate danger?


Hi Reading, LV #41 faces scrapping if none decide to purchase within the next few months if I remember correctly. I'm currently in touch with IRSI and will further inquire about maybe keeping it on the market for a tad longer but thats all I can envision. Now if you're intereted in the unit I'd be more than happy to handout a contact. The #41 is serviceable from what is understood but is now re-built as an RDC-1 loosing its baggage compartment. I'd suggest that if you're really a dedicated LV fan simply go for it given that you have the potential 100k to purchase and move the car.

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LV # 41 had an interesting career as it served as 3 classes of RDC. Built as a RDC-2.

1958 (Sept) to CPR # 9116 as RDC-2, under CPR E.O. # 5850. In March 1975 the car was converted to a RDC-5 at CP's Angus Shops. The baggage room was converted to almost a makeshift coach area, with subway car / school bus type seats in lieu of the regular comfortable coach seats in the rest of the unit. The baggage doors were sealed off with a sheet of stainless steel (probably the original baggage door) with a window at seat level. It was renumbered # 9306 at this time

In 1978 VIA Rail assumed ownership, but the car probably remained in Montreal's West Island commuter service until it was converted to RDC-1 # 6143 in October 1981 at CNR's Pointe St. Charles Shops. Unfortunatley with LV 41, pictures show the replating where the original baggage doors were, not the best. Some of the other cars converted the only evidence of the baggage area, is the rain gutters on the roof still remain.

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