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 Post subject: identify this engine
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:47 pm 

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this is a model but I've dug and not found a prototype, so I figured post here to some experts.

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what kills me is the superheater box and the boxpok drivers.


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 Post subject: Re: identify this engine
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:22 pm 

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Rebuilt B&O President class....? If not that it has the lines of something from the Frisco or Mopac. Trailing truck makes me think the rebuilt B&O steamer however.

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 Post subject: Re: identify this engine
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:13 pm 

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this looks best to me. Chicago and Alton Pacific. I'll look at the B&O engine.


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 Post subject: Re: identify this engine
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:33 pm 

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OK, I see it, B&O had control of the C&A and the C&A could have aquired some of the engines, and the B&O had done a lot of mods. I think its nailed.


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 Post subject: Re: identify this engine
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:29 pm 

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Not my image, taken shamelessly from google images search. Matches 100% from what I can see, it's only missing the B&O crest on the pump shield. Has the high coal bunker, Worthington SA feedwater heater, correct appearance pump shield, correct valve gear link hanger, correct cross head, safety valves with shield only at rear, correct marker lights and headlight, "boxspoke" drivers, early delta style trailing truck, and a larger boiler than the GM&O locomotive.


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 Post subject: Re: identify this engine
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:09 pm 

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Too many details off to be the Reading Loco.

The running board skirts are missing, drivers are wrong and of course the Wooten Firebox. It doesn't even have the same number of domes. Nope, not very close at all.


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 Post subject: Re: identify this engine
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:13 pm 

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not as a reading...for the B&O C&A and the model maker, the model maker possibly took on a best representation, choose your own mod with stuff from greenway to match...8-D


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 Post subject: Re: identify this engine
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:45 pm 

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I was replying to a previous message saying it looked like Reading due the shield, but that message seems to have been deleted.


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 Post subject: Re: identify this engine
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:02 pm 

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I would confirm it as a B&O P7c, a rebuilt P7

https://davieloco.files.wordpress.com/2 ... 5305sb.jpg

https://davieloco.wordpress.com/2012/09 ... ent-tyler/

https://davieloco.wordpress.com/2012/09/

The streamlined version, which was assigned to the Cincinnatian, was P7d:

https://assets.train-simulator.com/app/ ... ?width=640

https://davieloco.files.wordpress.com/2 ... rafton.jpg

Another variant, with a larger tender, was P7e, shown in model form:

http://www.3rdrail.com/images/bop7b.jpg

http://www.3rdrail.com/images/bop7-5315b.jpg

Of note in regard to these engines, they were originally painted olive green with gold and red striping, which was changed to blue around 1940--and the color shots show this.

The first engine in the series, No. 5300, the President Washington, survives as part of the B&O Museum collection.

The model as shown does have some minor damage to handrails, and besides the missing B&O medallion on the air compressor shield, it also seems to be missing its turbogenerator, which would be just forward and to the left of the turret cover.


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