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 Post subject: Mallet Restoration in Brazil
PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 1:22 pm 

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If this more properly belongs in Railfanning, I won't argue with the administrators. . .and the video, from Prefeitura de Rio Negrinho, is in Portuguese. . .but it seems the work, appeal, and enthusiasm of and for steam railroading is universal, and that is worth sharing, and celebrating.

https://www.facebook.com/governoderione ... 172361967/


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 Post subject: Re: Mallet Restoration in Brazil
PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 10:01 pm 

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204 had a pair of sisters at Tubarau on the Estrada Ferro Dona Teresa Cristina (sp?) EFDTC in Brazil. They were primarily used on the Lauro Muller Branch, but when I visited in March of 1974, Alco Mikados were the power.

I think this one was built on or about 1950.


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 Post subject: Re: Mallet Restoration in Brazil
PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 11:20 pm 

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 Post subject: Re: Mallet Restoration in Brazil
PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 12:21 pm 

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Robby, even on my pathetic excuse for a widescreen tablet, clicking the "not now" at the bottom of that intrusive initial Facebook dialogue drops it to the bottom far enough that you can start, play, and see the video.

Has Facebook now revised their interface so even if content is playing, it jumps the window back up after a fixed time?

No, Facebook is a poor excuse for providing actual 'free' information to the public compared to HTML5 on the Web. But on the other hand if weasel Internet businesses are successful and require 'membership' to view their content, is that unfair?

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 Post subject: Re: Mallet Restoration in Brazil
PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 1:56 pm 

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Unfortunately not now was not one of my choices. If MR Arrogant Zuckerberg wants to run for office he will need to find a better way to communicate than bullS"#&t book.

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 Post subject: Re: Mallet Restoration in Brazil
PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 3:58 pm 

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There's a shorter video (3" +) here http://tinyurl.com/k3953da
The ABPF's website is http://www.abpf.com.br/inicio/ I wasn't able to find any particulars on the 204 on the ABPF site.

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 Post subject: Re: Mallet Restoration in Brazil
PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 6:06 pm 

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So, the most important thing about this post isn't the restoration and operation of the 2-6-6-2. Instead it is how unfair Facebook is. I am no fan of Facebook but I think the Brazilians deserve a great big round of applause for their hard work.


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 Post subject: Re: Mallet Restoration in Brazil
PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 7:12 pm 

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If you can not see the work how can you comment one way or another. It is like the previous thread where they discussed the great boiler work but the work was covered by jacket and other items. The first step in seeing the work is to get thru the rubbish so one can see it.

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 Post subject: Re: Mallet Restoration in Brazil
PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 8:40 pm 

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Here is a delightful video of the inaugural trip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f22k1fiYoEM

and here, I think, is the YouTube version of the Facebook video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGDKm6n34Pk

What's not to like: thoroughly modern simple articulated, sits up like a Challenger, Delta-style trailing truck, alive, and with hands down one of the prettiest whistles you could want.

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 Post subject: Re: Mallet Restoration in Brazil
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 1:28 am 

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J3a-614 --
thank you very much for the great news that another steam locomotive is alive and well -- AND she is even a true Mallet!! She is impressive and, yes, she does have a pretty whistle, and, for me, more importantly, she is pretty darned square! I LOVE square stack talk!!

Huge congratulations to the guys in Brazil for getting this great locomotive operating. I know from personal experience with the SP 2472 how darned much WORK it is to restore any steam locomotive. (Only took us a short time -- 15-1/2 years! LOL!)

The 204 was built by Baldwin in 1950, so she is a very recently steam-era build, and the same age as the mighty N&W 611. Here is Google's translation of the info below this 14-minute 52-second long YouTube video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGDKm6n34Pk&t=69s

Please note -- most of the video is of a guy, who may be the hoghead, talking, in the cab -- in Portuguese, of course, and the video is poor quality.

Google's English transliteration of the ext under the video I linked above:

"History of the Locomotive Mallet 204, configuration 2-6-6-2, (Baldwin Locomotive 1950) which ran on the Lauro Müller-Laguna axis during the 50/60/70 decades, and in the 1980s it was ceded to the ABPF, and Now, after years of being parked, it returns the railroads of Santa Catarina completely reformed"

The Portuguese original:

"História da Locomotiva Mallet 204, configuração 2-6-6-2, (Baldwin Locomotive 1950) que rodou no eixo Lauro Müller - Laguna, durante as décadas de 50/60/70, e na década de 80 foi cedida a ABPF, e agora, após anos estacionada, volta as ferrovias catarinenses completamente reformada"

There are a number of other videos on YouTube of this great Mallet, but all of them are short -- no longer than 2 minutes. But they are there, and you can enjoy seeing this great locomotive without bothering with FacePalm.

As for "FaceSplat" / "FacePalm" -- just search YouTube for videos. No, the latest info may not be there, but you can still get some pretty good info and videos. No, not always, but it is certainly worth a try. Remember -- a huge number of people have smart phones, and many people make videos and put them on YouTube.

Overmod / R.M.Ellsworth --
Thanks very much for the YouTube links. The 204 is, indeed, a Mallet, and she is quite impressive!

I am so glad this topic was posted on RYPN, because I never would have found out about this neat Mallet if I hadn't read the Interchange here!

EDIT:
I just now checked Trainorders, the International discussion board, and there is a thread about the 204 posted yesterday, May 5, by a TO member who lives in Brazil:

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/ ... ?6,4287900

This post has a link to a website with a lot of info about this weekend's trips behind the 204, which are round trips 15 miles long. The info is, of course, in Portuguese, but Google Translate can transliterate it for you.


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 Post subject: Re: Mallet Restoration in Brazil
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 3:18 am 

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Overmod wrote:
Here is a delightful video of the inaugural trip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f22k1fiYoEM

and here, I think, is the YouTube version of the Facebook video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGDKm6n34Pk

What's not to like: thoroughly modern simple articulated, sits up like a Challenger, Delta-style trailing truck, alive, and with hands down one of the prettiest whistles you could want.


Thank you for your search! Indeed, you do have the YouTube version of the Facebook video (which I couldn't find), and now some other people here can see this lovely little Mallet--which, incidentally, is fired with wood!


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 Post subject: Re: Mallet Restoration in Brazil
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 3:20 am 

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MargaretSPfan wrote:
J3a-614 --
thank you very much for the great news that another steam locomotive is alive and well -- AND she is even a true Mallet!! She is impressive and, yes, she does have a pretty whistle, and, for me, more importantly, she is pretty darned square! I LOVE square stack talk!!

Huge congratulations to the guys in Brazil for getting this great locomotive operating. I know from personal experience with the SP 2472 how darned much WORK it is to restore any steam locomotive. (Only took us a short time -- 15-1/2 years! LOL!)



And thank you for the kind words, and the appreciation for what the fellows in Brazil did.


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 Post subject: Re: Mallet Restoration in Brazil
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 10:10 am 

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 Post subject: Re: Mallet Restoration in Brazil
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 10:14 am 

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Facebook has opened up an entirely new realm for communication regarding rail preservation projects. it is a tool, not unlike any other tool that we use in our day to day lives.

It is quite easy to post videos, photos and info. to facebook. It is more difficult and time consuming to do so on a traditional web page. Web pages also do not get the same reach and there are few mechanisms for feedback.

RYPN is even a poor option for posting such content due to the photo size restrictions. Its so much easier just to post a photo to FB of any size than it is to open up a separate photo processing program, upload a photo, reduce its size, save the smaller size then go to RYPN, create a post then upload it there.

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 Post subject: Re: Mallet Restoration in Brazil
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 10:16 am 

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Looks and sounds to be a simple articulated, not a "true" Mallet. But, the Espee called all their cab forwards "Malleys", whether simple or compound.


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