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 Post subject: Congratulations Adirondack Scenic Railroad
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:43 pm 

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New York Supreme Court judge ruled today "to completely annul and vacate the work by project developers" on removing the tracks and building a trail. The ruling is not kind to the state and those involved. Details in several places, but here is a start.

http://www.uticaod.com/news/20170927/ad ... l-derailed


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 Post subject: Re: Congratulations Adirondack Scenic Railroad
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:06 pm 

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Another newspaper just updated with a link to the actual order (a long read).

http://www.adirondackdailyenterprise.co ... ith-trail/

Interesting when the judge called the plan "irrational and nonsensical" and "it is, thus, likewise undisputed that the 2016 UMP is based upon mistaken information, assumptions, and beliefs."

Read the comments to the paper...boy the trail folks just plain hate railroads.


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 Post subject: Re: Congratulations Adirondack Scenic Railroad
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:13 pm 

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Yikes those trail folks sound unpleasant. I didn't know there were people who would campaign for a paved trail with no challenge whatsoever. Sounds like you'll get just the greatest kick from your speed walking routine you're trying to get into. (If you ask me, I suggest the trail people actually climb the mountains instead of just looking at them).


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 Post subject: Re: Congratulations Adirondack Scenic Railroad
PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:32 am 

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Steamguy73 wrote:
Yikes those trail folks sound unpleasant.


Oh my, they've been like that for years! And in some ways what you are seeing is mild compared to what we've seen before, and not just here!

Just check out these cartoons from the Facebook site of Trail Now, which wants to see the railroad in Santa Cruz go away.

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5A3BF0F0

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5A436444

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5A4B0C5E

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5A3B495F

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5A88A028

I've been following these and other rail vs. trail fights, and it seems you see the same stuff over and over.

You can understand how I've come to have a low opinion of the trail crowd.


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 Post subject: Re: Congratulations Adirondack Scenic Railroad
PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:20 am 

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How serious is the bid effort for the Winter Olympics in Lake Placid in 2026? I would think the railroad could be a major part of the bid effort.


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 Post subject: Re: Congratulations Adirondack Scenic Railroad
PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:36 am 

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As a reference, here's the court decision itself.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/ogden_images/w ... tOrder.pdf


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 Post subject: Re: Congratulations Adirondack Scenic Railroad
PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:39 am 

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For cross-reference, another thread on this, older and a good deal longer.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39109


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 Post subject: Re: Congratulations Adirondack Scenic Railroad
PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:43 am 

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diningcartim wrote:
How serious is the bid effort for the Winter Olympics in Lake Placid in 2026? I would think the railroad could be a major part of the bid effort.


I wouldn't hold my breath because there isn't enough housing in the area.

Chances are if there is a US bid, it would be for Park City, Utah.

Bob H


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 Post subject: Re: Congratulations Adirondack Scenic Railroad
PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:44 am 

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This is great news. It sounds like the good guys have won, for a change.


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 Post subject: Re: Congratulations Adirondack Scenic Railroad
PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:01 pm 

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It sounds like the good guys have won

It ain't over until the fat lady sings. This is just a stay of execution, I am afraid.


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 Post subject: Re: Congratulations Adirondack Scenic Railroad
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:46 pm 

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are they still going to work on the other part of the line?

good news.


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