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 Post subject: Northwestern Steel and Wire P5s article
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:20 pm 

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Hello, in addition to working with Thomas Dyrek on the list of surviving TP&W cabooses, i also wrote this article on a favorite topic of mine, EX: GTW, NS&W P5s. Check it out

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2P ... raJnhE/pub

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 Post subject: Re: Northwestern Steel and Wire P5s article
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:23 pm 

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Are there any photos of the Burlington 0-6-0's?

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 Post subject: Re: Northwestern Steel and Wire P5s article
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:42 pm 

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softwerkslex wrote:
Are there any photos of the Burlington 0-6-0's?


http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1847265
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1809320
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=3632382


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8380 in happier days . . .
https://www.railarchive.net/randomsteam/gtw8380.htm

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 Post subject: Re: Northwestern Steel and Wire P5s article
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:25 pm 

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NSW 5 looks like a CNW class M3 except for it's coal bunker having outside bracing which may be a CB&Q thing. Anyone have a better match ?


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 Post subject: Re: Northwestern Steel and Wire P5s article
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:34 pm 

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M Secco wrote:
NSW 5 looks like a CNW class M3 except for it's coal bunker having outside bracing which may be a CB&Q thing. Anyone have a better match ?


5 is most likely CNW while 4 and 6 were CB&Q.


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 Post subject: Re: Northwestern Steel and Wire P5s article
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:43 am 

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Maybe a really dumb question, but did anyone ever compile a listing of which locomotives passed through NWS&W's yards on the way to the furnaces? In Ziel's "Twilight of Steam" he not only chronicled the passing of CB&Q 2-10-4's, 4-8-4's, and 2-8-2's, but also a string of NKP Berkshires. Also interesting was the removal of headlights from condemned locomotives and placement on the ground. Were they sold out of the office or just tossed into the junk? The company must have harvested locomotive "jewelry" at some point.

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 Post subject: Re: Northwestern Steel and Wire P5s article
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:24 pm 

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Dick -

Interesting question. Many years ago, one of the railroad clubs (NRHS/Iowa Chapter perhaps?) arranged an inspection of Northwestern Steel & Wire. I drove out there and remember that we went into their "Shop" where there were all kind of parts around, including quite a few old steam locomotive headlights. I often wonder what happened to all that stuff.

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I seem to recall one of the crossbucks at a crossing with the internal plant roadways having a headlight mounted to the post to act as a light. I'm sure there were others deeper into the property. Seems they made decent weatherproof light fixtures, for cheap.

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 Post subject: Re: Northwestern Steel and Wire P5s article
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:14 pm 

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Dennis Storzek wrote:
I seem to recall one of the crossbucks at a crossing with the internal plant roadways having a headlight mounted to the post to act as a light.



Dennis - Sounds really interesting! With all those photographers taking shots of the ex-GTW 0-8-0's for all those years they worked for NWS&W, you think somebody would have gotten a shot of that steam loco headlight/crossbuck. Anybody ever see such a shot?


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 Post subject: Re: Northwestern Steel and Wire P5s article
PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:10 pm 

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Greetings:
I have a mimeographed letter from NWS&W dated September 28, 1961 offering "Surplus Steam Locomotive Accessories".
Whistles: $50.00, Headlights: 30.00 to 50.00, bells 150.00 etc.
"It is earnestly suggested that you personally inspect those items you are interested in at our facility".

Along with two friends (including Richard C. Young who later became Richard Jensen's fan trip manager), we purchased a CB&Q 5 chime step top which we paid to have mounted on 5632 for one of the 3 day trips to the Messabi.
Brad Miller, owner of Mobile Fidelity, a producer of high quality steam locomotive sound records was allowed to ride in the cab and blow the whistle "his way" for the trip from Chicago to St. Paul.
He hated our whistle. When we got back to St.Paul after going to Duluth, etc., we found our whistle on the floor in the baggage car.
While we were off to Duluth, the pressure on 5632 was relieved, it's whistle was brought up from Clyde and reapplied to 5632.
Brad had a lot of pull with the "Q".
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 Post subject: Re: Northwestern Steel and Wire P5s article
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:33 am 

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$50 was a lot of money in 1961. What was minimum wage back then?

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 Post subject: Re: Northwestern Steel and Wire P5s article
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:06 am 

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Something like $1.65/HR.

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 Post subject: Re: Northwestern Steel and Wire P5s article
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:07 pm 

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Richard you may want to revise your post. According to InfoPlease https://www.infoplease.com/business-fin ... -1955-2015
The wage in '61 was $1.15.

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