Don't shoot me, I'm just passing the word.

Middletown & Hummelstown near Harrisburg, Pa.:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/8886970 ... 709372320/





More at the post link. Car is IDed as Dallas 605.

It is implied at this post that the CTA cars at Middletown may also be up for grabs or parting out:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/8886970 ... 139371777/

I spoke with Mike Graycar today at the M&H while I was decorating coaches for Easter. 3 of the 4 axles are frozen on the car for unknown reasons. Interested parties are welcome to inspect the car and contact the M&H CEO, Wendell Dillinger, who is usually on the property after 11 am. Mike is also usually at the shop weekdays. RR number is 717-944-4435.

Anyone who is considering taking this car needs to also consider that McKinney Avenue Transit Authority in Dallas recently tried to restore sister car #612 and determined that it couldn't be done in a $250,000 budget - albeit with paid shop employees, not a volunteer force. That car looks to be in pretty much the same sad shape.

Why is threr a Ⓣ logo if it is a Dallas car?

T logo is because Dallas sold these cars to Boston's MTA (now MBTA) around 1958 who operated them for years until Boeing LRV's replaced them in the 1970's.

Phil Mulligan

The ex-Dallas cars were purchased by MTA to retire the last of the Boston type 5 cars. The last eight of the "standard" semi-convertible streetcars were used in short turn service to the Northeastern University campus through which the Huntington Avenue/Arborway line ran after coming to the surface just north of Gainsborough Street, and also on the Watertown Line.

There's still a pocket track a few blocks west of the portal where the Huntington Avenue line came up to the surface where the cars could reverse and go back down to downtown Boston's Park Square station. Since there was no place for a turning loop at Northeastern Univ, a double-ended car was required and the ex-Dallas cars were perfect for the service. The old type 5's were built in the 1920s and were ready to be replaced. Type 5s also ran through the end of 1958 on the Watertown line from North Station to the Commonwealth Avenue portal in short turn service.

Do you mean Park Street Station?

I think this is a trolley that was formerly at Branford Electric Rwy. Ass'n. - Shore Line Trolley Museum many years ago, and in rusty condition, especially in the step wells, back then.

The CTA cars may be a pair of "Baldy" 4000 series subway cars that were at Buckingham Valley Trolley Ass'n. for a short time in 1978 or 9. They moved on their own wheels in freight service back then.

There were some CTA works cars there when I visited Middletown in 2011, plus some of the former CTA cars that ended up on the SEPTA High Speed Line....

Another of the ex-Dallas double end PCCs may still exist at the privately owned boneyard at Windber, PA. This one had been a work car in its latter days at MBTA.

In 2009, SF Muni issued a contract for $18 million to rebuilt 16 PCC's for use on the historic lines on the Embarcadero and up Market... So more than $1 million each... so it is not a surprise that McKinney Ave found a $250,000 budget unworkable.

As a double ended car, it is much more flexible in operation (no loops needed) so this may have enough value to support a expensive rebuilding for the right operation.

Randy

what type of car is the yellow on the right side of the photo?

thnks

Looks like a CTA 4000 car (yellow) next to a CTA 6000 car.