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 Post subject: Re: Visit to WMSR Shop / #1309 - 13 August 2019
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:52 pm 
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Looks great.
I'm glad to realize that the other photograph was from a long time ago and the drivers are looking ready to roll at this point.

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 Post subject: Re: Visit to WMSR Shop / #1309 - 13 August 2019
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:48 pm 

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If you look at the photograph showing the rear frame of the front engine that was assumed to be current, please note that it's still secured to the TTX flat that carried it from Baltimore.

If it was current I'd hate to pay the demurrage fees.


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 Post subject: Re: Visit to WMSR Shop / #1309 - 13 August 2019
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Paul D wrote:
If you look at the photograph showing the rear frame of the front engine that was assumed to be current, please note that it's still secured to the TTX flat that carried it from Baltimore.

If it was current I'd hate to pay the demurrage fees.

What photograph are you referring to?


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 Post subject: Re: Visit to WMSR Shop / #1309 - 13 August 2019
PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:49 pm 

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What photograph are you referring to?[/quote]

I deleted the 5 year old photos so there would be no further confusion.

They were merely posted only to answer a question from another member about how the front engine was attached to the rest of the locomotive.

I apologize for any and all confusion...

Tim W.


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 Post subject: Re: Visit to WMSR Shop / #1309 - 13 August 2019
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:11 am 

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Probably a good idea. Some railfan might start a 3 page discussion on why after all this time the wheels are not done, who is responsible for this delay and if Rons Tire Shop is really the contractor to do the work. And why are the wheels in Canada like Howard Cosell narrating sports history.

In all seriousness thanks for the pics, explanations and a thank you out to Jason for doing the video. Maybe the armchair mechanics can learn from him some of the reasons a restoration is so time consuming above and beyond the theft of critical parts and a relatively small workforce in the shop. I am excited about this restoration making it to the finish line and being done right. Regards, John.


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 Post subject: Re: Visit to WMSR Shop / #1309 - 13 August 2019
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:22 am 

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Just in case anyone didn't see that work has been stopped again, pending funding.

https://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2019/08/24-western-maryland-1309-project-halts-again-for-need-of-funding


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 Post subject: Re: Visit to WMSR Shop / #1309 - 13 August 2019
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:54 am 

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Let's at least celebrate that John Garner has learned not to issue completion dates and be selling reservations based upon them.

I was hoping they'd maybe have her in service for this years Santa trains but that's now not very probable. Let's hope they can find the needed funds to get her over the finish line before too much additional water goes under the bridge.

Hope springs eternal.

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 Post subject: Re: Visit to WMSR Shop / #1309 - 13 August 2019
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:26 pm 

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"A last remaining part for the rear engine, a driving box, must be purchased from a foundry at a cost of $39,000, then machined and installed."

It's too bad it isn't possible to make one of these overnight like Burt Lancaster did in The Train. Is the cost of this piece mostly the price of the metal or the labor?

Is this one of the pieces sold by the former employee for scrap?

The guy who committed the theft had a number of similar theft convictions going back fifteen years, I'm still astonished a person like that would have access to the locomotive.


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 Post subject: Re: Visit to WMSR Shop / #1309 - 13 August 2019
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:39 pm 

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PMC wrote:
"A last remaining part for the rear engine, a driving box, must be purchased from a foundry at a cost of $39,000, then machined and installed."

It's too bad it isn't possible to make one of these overnight like Burt Lancaster did in The Train. Is the cost of this piece mostly the price of the metal or the labor?

Is this one of the pieces sold by the former employee for scrap?

The guy who committed the theft had a number of similar theft convictions going back fifteen years, I'm still astonished a person like that would have access to the locomotive.
Wow, that's a pricy box. We built a set about that size a couple of years ago. The materials (including new cast steel boxes) ran $3,415 per box (though we didn't have to make patterns from scratch, just modify them). Total cost came in at under $11,000 per box.

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You would be suprised at the number of operations that hire people without checking references...

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 Post subject: Re: Visit to WMSR Shop / #1309 - 13 August 2019
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:44 pm 

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I assumed it was a typo....... maybe not?

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 Post subject: Re: Visit to WMSR Shop / #1309 - 13 August 2019
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:14 pm 

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I assumed it was a typo as well. They have wheeled the front engine but not the rear engine so my guess is that that need $39k for the rear six boxes.

C'mon, you don't really expect your run of the mill journalist to get those kinds of details right, do you, lol?

Rob Gardner

PS...here's hoping this is the last of the major hurdles. Perhaps, however, they have learned from past experience that crying "Crisis, Crisis!!! We're ALL out of money!!!" is indeed an effective way to raise funds?


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